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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Obsidian Energy Ltd T.OBE

Alternate Symbol(s):  OBE

Obsidian Energy Ltd. is a Canada-based exploration and production company. The Company operates in one segment, to explore for, develop and hold interests in oil and natural gas properties and related production infrastructure in the Western Canada Sedimentary Basin directly and through investments in securities of subsidiaries holding such interests. It has a portfolio of assets producing... see more

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Obsidian Energy Ltd > Too few buyers for this sector
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Post by Hendrick3 on Aug 19, 2023 2:36pm

Too few buyers for this sector

On all the oil and gas companies I own, the common complaint is that they are massively undervalued, why won't they go up?  It's true that every company I hold, including Obe is less than 2.5x annualized funds flow based on 2q which was a very poor price environment. They will b around 1.5 times cash flow with crude at $85 and nat gas at $3.5. So with such small multiples where are the buyers?    

The answer is that there are only a very few buyer's interested in this sector and the few buyers want dividends. Companies that pay a dividend are valued around 3.5-6 times funds flow. An excellent example is cj which pays a 10% dividend yield at 35 cents 2q cash flow which when annualized is over 5x funds flow on its current stock price.

So in essence the premium valuations go to the dividend payers. If this industry attracts some interest there may be a rerate that takes the less than 2x multiple stocks to the stratosphere but we need broader interest for that to happen. 

I am prepared to be very patient as I believe my stocks are massively undervalued and some day soon that will be recognized by new entrants to this sector. For those of you who are impatient I would suggest pushing management  for dividends as it seems that is the best way to get short term price appreciation.

Comment by thetruth54 on Aug 19, 2023 5:01pm
While I agree with you on your opinion about dividends,I totally disagree with you about investors being impatient. Surely, the abused long term investors of OBE cannot be called impatient. Moreover, Loukas will have served as CEO 4 years this December yet the stock price is not even $1 US presplit. Sooner or later the goodwill that Loukas had acquired among investors for saving the company will ...more  
Comment by Franman184 on Aug 20, 2023 1:07pm
Cant disagree with any of the comments. I am prepared to wait until January 2024 to see if this ship starts to float. I personally agrree with paying down debt and buying back shares when it so undervalued before paying a dividend. If we can hold between $75 to $80 for WTI we may get a dividend and the stock should be at least $14 before starting any dividend payments. If you listend to the ...more  
Comment by JohnJBond on Aug 22, 2023 1:01am
The potential dividend and estimated yield on that dividend has been the logic for my investment in OBE ever since it survived the Covid oil price drop. The most basic stock valuation model is the dividend discount model.   The most basic idea that a stock is worth the present value of its future dividend payments. You pay now for what you get back later. One of the most attractive ...more  
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