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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Oncolytics Biotech Inc T.ONC

Alternate Symbol(s):  ONCY

Oncolytics Biotech Inc. is a clinical-stage biotechnology company. The Company is focused on developing pelareorep, an intravenously delivered immunotherapeutic agent that activates the innate and adaptive immune systems and weakens tumor defense mechanisms. This compound induces anti-cancer immune responses and promotes an inflamed tumor phenotype turning cold tumors hot through innate and... see more

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Oncolytics Biotech Inc > Bayer looking for a "mid-size M&A transaction" in oncology
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Post by Noteable on Jun 13, 2023 9:57am

Bayer looking for a "mid-size M&A transaction" in oncology

June 13, 2023 - ' Roth agreed that $5 billion to $10 billion would be a good value estimate for a midsize M&A transaction.'

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/bayer-needs-midsize-acquisition-reach-10b-cancer-drug-sales-goal-oncology-chief-says

As for modalities, Bayer has identified precision molecular oncology, next-generation immuno-oncology medicines and radioligand therapies as its top priorities.

Having an ambition to join the ranks of the top cancer drug makers motivates the organization. But to Roth, becoming a top oncology player isn’t just about the statistics but rather building a business to have a bigger impact on patient care.

In another boon to Bayer’s oncology ambitions, a pharma veteran with deep oncology experience just arrived as the helmsman of the entire Bayer group. Bill Anderson, most recently Roche’s pharma chief, officially became Bayer's CEO
 on June 1.
Comment by Noteable on Jun 13, 2023 12:20pm
" The deal would likely come with a later-stage drug, Bayer’s oncology chief Christine Roth said. The right deal would also fit in Bayer’s focus tumor types and potentially within its three pillars of treatment modalities, Roth added. Roth agreed that $5 billion to $10 billion would be a good value estimate for a midsize M&A transaction. But she also said she’s not ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Jun 20, 2023 11:32am
Bayer's Chief Scientific Offiecer in oncology Christine Roth agreed that $5 billion to $10 billion would be a good value estimate for a midsize M&A transaction.
Comment by Noteable on Jun 23, 2023 11:55am
Once again .. Bayer's Chief Scientific Offiecer in oncology Christine Roth agreed that $5 billion to $10 billion would be a good value estimate for a midsize M&A transaction. ONCY's Phase 3 ready platform technology positions ONCY's M&A acquisition value of between US$10-15 Billion.
Comment by westcoast1000 on Jun 23, 2023 12:32pm
Thanks Noteable. These figures sound more relevant every day. Also Bayer wants to build up its immunology/oncology capacity and its precision medicine, IIRC. That screams ONCY. Roche and Bayer are both Swiss based. 
Comment by Noteable on Jul 18, 2023 10:42am
As previously posted ..Bayer's Chief Scientific Offiecer in oncology Christine Roth agreed that $5 billion to $10 billion would be a good value estimate for a midsize M&A transaction.
Comment by Noteable on Jul 18, 2023 11:05am
ONCY's late-stage phase 3 bio-platform technology in pelareorep addresses multiple unmet medical needs in the sought after oncology market space and is fairly valued for a M&A deal at between US$10 Billion to US$15 Billion.
Comment by Noteable on Jul 18, 2023 11:17am
Should read : ONCY's late-stage phase 3 - ready bio-platform technology in pelareorep addresses multiple unmet medical needs in the sought after oncology market space and is fairly valued for a M&A deal at between US$10 Billion to US$15 Billion.
Comment by Noteable on Jul 18, 2023 1:36pm
And then there is Bayer's Chief Scientific Officer in oncology Christine Roth comment that conservatively $5 billion to $10 billion would be a good value estimate for a midsize M&A transaction.
Comment by Noteable on Jun 13, 2023 6:17pm
Looks like this needs repeating ... ' Roth agreed that $5 billion to $10 billion would be a good value estimate for a midsize M&A transaction.'
Comment by fox7mf on Jun 13, 2023 6:32pm
So Oncy goes from a $11b-$15b valuation to $5b-$10b? Let's start with getting the gd market cap up to $1b  or $2b.
Comment by Noteable on Jun 13, 2023 6:48pm
An independent opinion from a Big Biotech oncolcolgy chief scientific officer saying that a M&A valued between US$5 Billion and US$10 Billion is 'good vaue' for the acquiring Big Pharma company confirms what I have been saying for quite awhile.  This notwithstanding ONCY's fair value is between US$10 Billion and US$15 Billion, given the shift in time and the increased ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Jun 13, 2023 6:51pm
If Rigby and Parsons properly do their job, then ONCY is worth well more than US$15 Bilion, given that ONCY has 2 Phase 3 ready drugs and plenty of room for indication expansion.
Comment by fox7mf on Jun 13, 2023 7:25pm
Let's hope they do their jobs in a timely manner from this point on, because my patience is running thin.
Comment by fox7mf on Jun 13, 2023 9:43pm
So, how do we go from a $175m market cap to a $15b+ valuation? I mean in a timely manner, like before 2030.
Comment by Buckhenry on Jun 13, 2023 11:18pm
They might consult with Elizabeth  Holmes from theranos. She has plenty of free time for creative consulting I hear. 
Comment by Lesalpes29 on Jun 14, 2023 6:46am
What we don't know for sure is how many BP are interested. More than one we are in business! We wait. GL
Comment by Noteable on Jun 14, 2023 8:50am
How? .... With an offer that the BOD can't refuse.
Comment by fox7mf on Jun 14, 2023 9:32am
What I'm getting at, and it concerns me greatly, is how do we arrive at a $200+ a share buyout for a $2.75 a share biotech? Of course, keeping in mind that no one wants to spend many more months or years while MC tries to create value. I know Onc should be worth a truck load, but how would, say Roche, expect shareholders to sign off on deal worth $200 a share for what we currently trade at ...more  
Comment by westcoast1000 on Jun 14, 2023 9:57am
Fox, My theory, or rather long term dream: some Big pharma buys on third of the company through a new class of non trading shares for 1.5 bil. Our share price moves to reflect a now 4.5 bil market cap.  They own 1/3 of ONCY and the right to be our exclusive partner. Then ONCY and the BP let BP design the trials and we pay our share. After further results, the BP buys the company at a price ...more  
Comment by fox7mf on Jun 14, 2023 12:14pm
Are these type deals, structured as you suggested, often seen? Very interesting WC.
Comment by 13X2413 on Jun 14, 2023 12:22pm
It's obvious we're all hoping for a miracle. I have these fantasies too. This thing continues to frustrate everybody. Up and down like a yo yo.  Too much hype about buyout dreams starts to sound too pumpish to me. Settle down boys. 
Comment by Buckhenry on Jun 14, 2023 12:58pm
That's all these dreamers gave been doing for 3 loooong years and counting. They won't stop... like a druggie  they need their daily fix of dreaming.  Maybe time to take some anti anxiety pills dreamers. 
Comment by westcoast1000 on Jun 14, 2023 1:47pm
Fox, In corporate mergers or takeovers, or in finance in general, creating a new class of non trading shares has often occurred although I cannot cite cases. I go on discussions with my corporate lawyer friends. I have also heard of big pharma taking a minority interest within a partnership, and then doing a buyout after more information is available that can serve as the basis for the final ...more  
Comment by Lesalpes29 on Jun 14, 2023 1:58pm
Intriguing what is behind the actual pop on volume since monday. I think we will have something positive shortly. Not buying and not selling until we know. 
Comment by Noteable on Jun 14, 2023 12:21pm
How do we get from here to there? I have already answered that in my past posts.
Comment by fox7mf on Jun 14, 2023 1:29pm
A +$10b usd buyout would be a lot easier to see if....Coffey, Parsons and Rigby could create some shareholder value and get this baby to say, $40 per share by Sept. 
Comment by Noteable on Jun 14, 2023 7:15pm
If Bayer sees "good value" in an oncology M&A transaction between US$5 and $ 10 Billion, others see the same good value at a range between $10 and &15 Billion.
Comment by fox7mf on Jun 14, 2023 7:31pm
We all hope so, but it isn't happening at Oncy's current share price. Looks like we're in this for the long haul, while management attempts to improve the valuation. 
Comment by Buckhenry on Jun 14, 2023 7:46pm
For all those putting and putting.......... and putting out their buyout prices...... wish in one hand and poop in the other and see which one gets full first. 
Comment by Noteable on Jun 14, 2023 7:58pm
https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard?symbol=t.onc&postid=35495533
Comment by Lesalpes29 on Jun 14, 2023 8:44pm
A multiple billions buyout can come fast but we need BP interested. All the pieces seem to be in place to negotiate ... results, directors to deal with BP and in my opinion all the board members ready to sell. But the price could be too low for some actually. But I'm like you Fox... could take until the end of the year. 
Comment by Noteable on Jun 15, 2023 10:32am
June 14, 2024 - "The [biopharma] industry is staring down a looming patent cliff like it’s a massive hurricane inching toward landfall. And the patent cliff not too far in the distance is set to be one of the most harrowing in history." With the industry facing this onslaught of challenges, pharma companies are battening the hatches through increased partnerships [M&A] and at ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Jun 15, 2023 10:57am
Should read - June 14, 2023
Comment by Noteable on Jun 16, 2023 5:53pm
Pharma giant Bayer is launching a precision health unit. "We believe we can help consumers move from reactive to proactive aging, with individualized insights about their biological age at all stages of life," said Heiko Schipper, president of Bayer's consumer health division. Schipper pointed to Bayer's work with Edifice Health, a company that uses state-of-the-art ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Jun 17, 2023 3:23pm
Bayer sees "good value" in moving on M&A transactions of between US$5 Billion to US$10 Billion  And the list of Big Pharma companies looking to hit their M&A "sweet spot" of US$5 Billion to US$25 Billion is growing, particularly given the regulatory environment presented by the FTC rulings. Note also that the FTC announced that it will be reviewing the merger of ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Jun 18, 2023 12:42pm
Big Phamra is facing a looming patent cliff which will primarily be addressed by acquistions of eary- late stage biotechnology companies.  Faced with this looming patent cliff and need to expand their oncology pipelines Bayer, for example, sees "good value" in moving on M&A transactions of between US$5 Billion to US$10 Billion, while Big Pharma's M&A "sweet-spot ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Jun 18, 2023 12:54pm
Should read: "....M&A "sweet-spot" is U$5 Billion to US$25 Billion and US$1.5 Trillion in deal-making firepower."
Comment by Noteable on Jul 25, 2023 2:34pm
Did I mention that Big Pharma sees "good value" in moving on M&A transactions of between US$5 Billion to US$10 Billion? They are wishing to acquire "good value" at a lower value than they are worth.   And the list of Big Pharma companies looking to hit their M&A "sweet spot" of US$5 Billion to US$25 Billion is growing, particularly given the ...more  
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