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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Pine Cliff Energy Ltd T.PNE

Alternate Symbol(s):  PIFYF

Pine Cliff Energy Ltd. is a Canada-based natural gas and crude oil company. The Company is engaged in the acquisition, exploration, development and production of natural gas and oil in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin and also conducts various activities jointly with others. The Company's operating areas include Central Assets, Edson Assets and Southern Assets. Its Central Assets include... see more

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Pine Cliff Energy Ltd > Whitecap Model
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Post by kavern23 on Nov 01, 2023 10:38pm

Whitecap Model

My guess is PNE is going to pivot towards the "whitecap model" on the certus assets.

What Whitecap does is they buy into a high quality oil and gas play...they then use CF from legacy mature assets to fund a 3-5 well drilling program in this new play with the expectation well results are so good revenue wise, that a drilling program can be sustained on CF from the flush production of the 3-5 wells.  Play becomes self funding.

This is why Whitecap has become so sucessful.

Whitecap got those glaucy locations in garrington from i think buying timerrock.  Whitecap is hiting such good wells that play is for sure self funding and Whitecap doesnt have to sink any new capital in.

But it is hard to do as you need the wells to be really good.
Comment by PabloLafortune on Nov 02, 2023 12:09am
IMO, PNE has their own model. Remain financially disciplined at all times, dont overextend yourself and dont borrow too much, pay the dividend religiously.  It wont surprise me that they borrowed from institutional because they could get better terms than from regular channels, I have confidence in this team and was't invested before because I thought they were too gassy. Now its a little ...more  
Comment by Maxmoe on Nov 02, 2023 10:32am
That's what makes a market right? I'm considering stepping out because it's more balanced, less gassy. Re borrowing, I'd be surprised if they had any other channel to chose from if I consider other channels to be 1) banks and other institutional money like insurance co, pension funds, mutual funds or 2) the bond market. I'm not aware of any other channels but then again ...more  
Comment by Scotchlight1001 on Nov 03, 2023 7:53pm
Did step out. It was amazing on how fast my shares were snapped up one day before the news came out. I thank PNE for making me money on 2 occasions but the evaluations on large cap blue chips were too compelling during tax loss selling to pass up. GLTA.
Comment by Maxmoe on Nov 02, 2023 10:21am
"This is why Whitecap has become so sucessful." Huh? Stock price is my yardstick. WCP got through $10 per share nearly 2 years ago. Since then, nothin. Zzzzz. Pne hasn't been much better but it at least has the upside leverage to natgas prices. Unless the debt forces a hedging program that caps that. Booooo! 
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