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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Signal Gold Inc T.SGNL

Alternate Symbol(s):  SGNLF

Signal Gold Inc. is a Canada-based gold development company. The Company is engaged in advancing the wholly owned Goldboro Project in the Canadian mining jurisdiction of Nova Scotia. The Goldboro Project is an advanced exploration and gold development project located approximately 175 kilometers (km) northeast of the city of Halifax, 60 km southeast of the town of Antigonish, and 1.6 km north... see more

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Signal Gold Inc > Re: Shiftyone's Calculations
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Post by shiftyone on Oct 27, 2024 5:06pm

Re: Shiftyone's Calculations

DDD, this does get kind of boring after awhile.
You state last week you want to compare apples to apples.  Well, you are comparing apples to oranges.  T

You ended your rebuttal with this.  
"Well, I now think it was kind of another attempt to discredit me instead of challenging my formula/objective but hey, I'm glad if you learned from it!"

Well, unfortunately I did not learn a thing from it.  Except that in your calculations, you are mixing numbers from Oct 15, then post placement closings, and then other numbers from post merger.  You can't do that.

When calculating SGNL shares... first, you are using numbers from a possible upsize in the placement.  I wouldn't do that, because it may not happen.  But ok.  It doesn't make a huge difference anyway.

You mixing numbers from NEXG shares outstanding on Oct 15 and the market cap, with numbers of shares that will be outstanding for SGNL after they issues over 100 million more shares. That is not apples to apples.

Market caps as of Oct 15... but issued shares after the placement closes, and is actually upsized again.

Using your logic in seeing this as appropriate... the market caps after the placement are not relevant... according to your calculations.

When SGNL raises $10  million or whatever it ends up being, to be closed the beginning of Nov,  do you expect there market cap to stay the same?  I  would think that it should increase by about $10 million.  But if  you want to keep the old market cap numbers.  and SGNL and NEXG stay the same, there will be some annoyed investors.  Because if you still have a market cap of $21 million or so, but if there is 373.9 million shares o/s, well that will make the price of SGNL at 0.056 cents. That's the type of thing that happens when you mix numbers from before the financing closes with numbers from after the financing closes.

The same is true for NEXG.  When they have an extra $8 million dollars next week, in theory there market cap should increase by a similar amount.

You have to use all numbers from the same time... either all before the closing, all after the closing, or all after the merger takes place(assuming it does).

(btw, if you didn't realize, the reason SGNL's percentage of the new NEXG is increasing... it is because the placement has already been upsized, and because of the extra funds being raised, they are bringing more to the table).

If the price of a SGNL share has a fair value of 0.13 as you calculate.  Those sellers  unloading millions of shares at .08 are really not very smart at all. (They must do math the way I do it).  And why is not one other person smart enough to figure out that it is worth .13 now.  I'm sure lots have tried to calculate it.  It surprises me that with the $20 million or so being raised between the two companies, not one single person has gone in and spent the $350 000 to buy out that 3.5 million shares for sale 0.10.  It seems like easy money.  I think you are the only one who understands your logic and realizes it's value is  0.13 now.

All shareholders of the new NEXG will suffer with the dilution of the warrants.  The warrants on both sides of the deal.  That is if the shares of sgnl are worth .13 and the warrants are already in the money.

You started your post with  " Impressive curriculum. But I do not think advanced maths are required: only simple calculations and basic logic is required."

The quote I made actually was a bit tongue in cheek.  Because only simple calculations and basic logic is required.  But you are not getting the simple logic part of it correct.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

If you can't baffle them with brilliance.... baffle them with B---S---.

Good luck

 
 



 
 
Comment by GrumpyInvestor on Oct 27, 2024 5:45pm
If YOU feel it's getting boring, imagine how it feels for all the other board members. I don't even see what it is the point each of you is trying to make with your calculations that turned into something of a "number salad".
Comment by DoumDiDoum on Oct 27, 2024 6:41pm
Amen to that Grumpy!
Comment by shiftyone on Oct 27, 2024 7:02pm
DDD, you sure are a stubborn one.  Was hoping to leave it with Grumpy's comments. But since you can't let it go... I ran the numbers using your latest retort to me when you suggest the value of sgnl should currently be .13. Only instead of X being SGNL's market cap and determining what the shareprice should be. I used Y to be NEXG's market cap and what the shareprice should ...more  
Comment by DoumDiDoum on Oct 27, 2024 7:12pm
(sigh) You certainly are the stubborn one. What are you trying to prove? Let's just say that I think you are using some numbers base on SGNL market cap. From the NR, it's the opposite. I will explain it to you simply: the constant 0.1244 is a constant (you have done advanced maths, right?) used to determine the fraction that one SGNL share represents compare to 1 share of NEXG. So I do ...more  
Comment by shiftyone on Oct 27, 2024 7:40pm
I know you don't understand.  But I've been trying to explain it to you. The deal was made with both companies looking at what they could contribute to the merged company. It was decided that every SGNL share would be converted at a rate of almost exactly 1 new share of the new nexg for every 8 shares of SGNL owned. The shareprice is no longer an issue.  Those were the terms.  ...more  
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