Post by
bows333 on Nov 01, 2024 11:01am
Random Thoughts
Once again, TVE reminds me of Ultra Petroleum. UP was $2 in 2000, and $200 (accounting for the split) in 2008 before making a really big mistake that led them into bankruptcy. Hang on folks, this has a long way to run.
Patterns last until they don't. The recent pattern is that no one wants to be caught without a long oil position at the Friday close, just in case of a war blows up over the weekend. When Monday morning comes around there is a significant amount of liquidation. Monday morning lows and Friday afternoon highs is now the norm. You can be sure, however, that if I actually tried trading derivatives contracts with this knowledge that the trend would immediately cease.
People confuse Peak Oil with running out of oil. Peak Oil means that oil is everywhere.... And cheap! BUT... It also means that there will be less available in the future, and thus more expensive in inflation-adjusted $. We saw peak oil from land deposits decades ago, We have now seen peak oil from offshore oil, and appear to currently be at Peak Oil from shale. It appears, to me, that if we are not currently at Peak Oil from all sources (and Peak Oil is only known in hindsight, never when it is actually happening), then we are darn close. TVE will be drilling existing land for decades. This is a non-expiring call option on oil that pays a dividend.
Re the dividend: The increase was smaller than it could have been. I suspect that they are setting up tiny increases in the dividend but plan on increasing that dividend annually for many years to come.
TVE is a long-term hold for me; I'm done buying. I hope it stays independent, but I suspect a takeover is likely over the next few years.
Comment by
pogohere on Nov 01, 2024 11:26am
Re: "Once again, TVE reminds me of Ultra Petroleum. UP was $2 in 2000, and $200 (accounting for the split) in 2008 before making a really big mistake that led them into bankruptcy. Hang on folks, this has a long way to run." What was UP's big mistake ? Thanks
Comment by
bows333 on Nov 01, 2024 1:05pm
Everyone needs to find their nitch. I'm not a trader, or a short term holder. I look for great 5-10 year opportunities. TVE is one of the best I see. Am I nuts? Quite possibly, but I see this as a $100+ stock in what I expect the world to look like in 2030. Thanks for listening everyone. You should all form your own opinions, if you haven't already.
Comment by
robert41 on Nov 01, 2024 2:41pm
Hi Bows im like u i dont trade...curious how you think this is $100 dollar stock in 2030 with a growing ev market. thx in advance.
Comment by
Jimmy1page on Nov 01, 2024 2:45pm
No clear on how the EV market is going to effect oil prices considering the machinery need to mine everything needed or the fact that they are charged by oil and gas and will be for the foreseeable future.
Comment by
robert41 on Nov 04, 2024 10:12am
What ridiculous post... you prefer coal over Natgas it sounds like. Did you even understand my post.. I agree gov's can't build a snowman but they can give the private sector the go ahead to do so which they didn't that was point. Yes Natgas is better than coal which was 60 years ago as is obviously today. Coal plants are everywhere in the developing world wake up VV.
Comment by
VeritasVern on Nov 04, 2024 10:25am
I never said I prefer coal over natural gas...I said you seem to think Natural Gas is acceptable with your little cult friends, the green types, indigenous, liberals and special interests like Sierra club. They are not ok with Natural gas, they want it shut down now. Sorry you can't seem to understand what it is you posted.
Comment by
robert41 on Nov 04, 2024 11:08am
Omg I dislike all those groups how is that not obvious. I'm saying Natgas would have the world in a better place over coal and all those groups got in the way with a lib government not helping. Time for you to post under W to shake things up a bit :).
Comment by
VeritasVern on Nov 04, 2024 11:57am
Robert, who gives a ratsass about your random thoughts anyway?
Comment by
robert41 on Nov 04, 2024 12:55pm
Probably no one kinda like yours. The good news Tve is crushing it. I guess ol' crazy Joe forgot to hit the down button on the price of oil the last few days hey Vern.
Comment by
woodsmen on Nov 04, 2024 3:44pm
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Comment by
bows333 on Nov 01, 2024 2:48pm
All it takes is 50 cents a share in quarterly profit, $2 a year, with an inventory of future wells still there and a marketplace that gives them a PE ratio of 50.
Comment by
Jimmy1page on Nov 01, 2024 1:06pm
I think we get a better perspective after the election. No matter who wins I think oil tanks initially.
Comment by
bows333 on Nov 01, 2024 1:22pm
I won't disagree with you. I really don't know or care what next week looks like; it's not one of my skill sets. I'm looking at the 2030 world and trying to sort out what things will look like.