Post by
Olliethegoalie on Jan 04, 2024 8:17pm
Special Dividend
Any thoughts on a special dividend coming with earnings?
Comment by
barneyj44 on Jan 04, 2024 8:45pm
I would think 0% chance of a special dividend. Whitecap pays a generous dividend as it is, any extra cash would be used for share buybacks and debt. Companies that go the Special Dividend route usually pay out smaller quarterly dividends like Tourmaline...
Comment by
jleer42 on Jan 04, 2024 8:59pm
No, if there is anything extra it will probably go to buybacks/debt. Crystal ball says there might be an 8-10% base dividend increase in Q4. 75% of 10% share purchase and 5% production growth being the back of napkin calc. .75(.1+.05)=11%
Comment by
Whynottoday2 on Jan 04, 2024 9:18pm
..... a WCP special dividend and a disruption in the Strait of Hormuz have about the same chance of happening; it's not zero! https://x.com/lastcallcnbc/status/1743075362379125035?s=46&t=q57skM4VTtsZAHbE5YtlxQ
Comment by
Anschutz on Jan 04, 2024 10:04pm
Depend8ng what the judge decides on the 22nd regarding the redacted and severed Epstein files, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a western nation ship taken out in the Strait of Hormuz. Are exocet missiles still a thing? LOL.
Comment by
barneyj44 on Jan 04, 2024 10:30pm
I would love a special dividend, don't recall Whitecap ever offering one and I have been a share holder for many,many years.
Comment by
Olliethegoalie on Jan 05, 2024 2:49pm
some good points. I think that a 5% increase in production should increase freecash flow by more than 5% shouldn't it? The fixed costs stay about the same. The amount they buy back will also increase cash flow per remaining share. If they buy back 10%, the cashflow per share should increase 11%, correct?
Comment by
Ocalaman on Jan 05, 2024 8:11am
Currently with thier po ration at 77% for 2023 ( amongst the lowest ) going to 94% in 2025 ( amongst the highest) in thier catagory and TMX startup dates in doubt which reduces any planned net back increased from decreases in wcs differnetial I am pegging the chance at 0. My thought would be continued buybacks and cancellation of shares will be the shareholder return game plan.
Comment by
goldens on Jan 05, 2024 6:05pm
Agree with you on that one. The special dividend is only good if you hold it when they pay it. Been holding these guys for a bit now and very happy with the management of the company. They have the debt where they want it and the dividend is safe. On another note we got a head & shoulders bottom with a 9.60 target so perhaps we will start to move back towards the $14 consensus target. GLTA
Comment by
Tothemoon2 on Jan 05, 2024 12:58pm
https://boereport.com/2023/12/20/mystery-buyer-of-plato-and-forgan-viking-assets-from-baytex-is-revealed/ Any extra money was spent for this.