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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Apollo Healthcare Corp Warrants (03/01/2022) APHWF

Based in Ontario Canada the Apollo Healthcare Corp Apollo is one of the largest private label personal care product manufacturers in North America developing and manufacturing retailer branded and private label products for major North American retailers. Apollos products are sold in tens of thousands of stores across North America and its customer base spans across major North American... see more

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Post by zalmonella on Sep 20, 2021 3:08am

Ownership

Finally looked up ownership a bit more closely: Wachsbergs now own 38M shares (52%) with 683 Capital Management at 10M shares (14%) and Anson Funds at 8M shares (11%).  We are the tail of the dog. I wish I could tell what the shares were purchased for - the problem is through successive rounds of financing and sales of assets that so many shares were given away at unrealistic prices that it's impossible to tell.
Comment by cpeczek on Sep 20, 2021 6:58am
Thanks for this info. It seems like 21% of the shares are responsible for these wild swings. If buybacks continue we will see that reduced to 17% a year from now.
Comment by FinnishFlash8 on Sep 20, 2021 10:04am
Anson is dumping their shares. That 8 million was the situation at the end of July. They had sold 22% (2,3 million) of their position to that date from the previous. According to tickr.com. 683 had been adding to that point.
Comment by gary7789 on Sep 21, 2021 1:58pm
AHC is a worthless company (or worse) as long as current leadership stays & they aren't going anywhere. They have burned just about every important relationship possible with all stakeholders. It is going to be a penny stock. Too bad. I had hopes they would leverage the COVID gift they were given. But they did the opposite. Nobody wants to deal with them.
Comment by FinnishFlash8 on Sep 21, 2021 2:20pm
Do you have information to back this or these just your personal opinions?
Comment by gary7789 on Sep 21, 2021 3:08pm
yes but I won't be writing it down..
Comment by FinnishFlash8 on Sep 21, 2021 3:12pm
Of course
Comment by gary7789 on Sep 21, 2021 3:15pm
you don't need to believe me. Just look at the at the stock price, talk to key employees & vendors & US key customers.
Comment by cpeczek on Sep 22, 2021 7:40am
Have you talked to the vendors, customers and employees? Could you give us more info? It feels like you are emotionally basing this off the stock price but there are many times when a stock price becomes disconnected from reality. If you bought at $4 or $5 you may be waiting a while to get back there but $1.88 is ridiculously low for a company looking at 30 cents annual EPS a share. Whoever told ...more  
Comment by gary7789 on Sep 23, 2021 12:33am
I accumulate from 65 cents to just under $5 despite being warned. After May 6, 2021 Q reporr & doing more networking I reduced my position by about 75% over a couple months. Tax reasons & hope (emotion) are the only reasons I still have some as a speculative long shot. If you don't believe ur eyes when you look at the chart, ask yourself this "how does a company that makes ...more  
Comment by cpeczek on Sep 23, 2021 7:36am
Since then several other companies have recalled sanitizer: https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2021/75267a-eng.php. I guess it comes down to mistakes were made. I saw their sanitizer being used at my local Costco for customers coming into the store and saw it on shelves. I saw their products at Superstore last week. The products are still stocked. I think their biggest ...more  
Comment by gary7789 on Sep 23, 2021 8:46am
that's good news if they are still listed in the US. I am interested to find out what has happened to hand sanitizer margins over the last 12 - 18 months. I suspect that they have dropped to almost zero as there has been oversupply/high inventories for the past 6+ months after all kinds of companies outside of personal care (eg. breweries, distilleries, etc) got into production. As for the ...more  
Comment by cpeczek on Sep 23, 2021 9:46am
I saw their product listed in Costco and being used as the sanitizer for customers just last week. I wouldn't call them a mid or high tier maker, they are budget brand in my mind. I don't think they damaged their public reputation because the public isn't very aware of their brand. I do agree margins are very low at this time. There is a huge oversupply and a lot of sanitizers are ...more  
Comment by gary7789 on Sep 23, 2021 3:45pm
hope you are right for the sake of many of us & most importantly, for some people I care about who would be badly affected if the company failed. Many have lost their jobs already there. The stock price action looks like it has been telling us there are really big issues for all of calendar 2021. I suspect they are now burning cash quickly just funding core operations. We may see that when ...more  
Comment by zalmonella on Sep 27, 2021 12:47pm
Ya, screwed up they have.  It was actually tough doing the hand sanny - industrial isoproyl alocholo was still fairly readily available across Canada and US (barring transport problems) but medical grade isn't made in too many places, and you can't just start up a medical grade facility just like that.  It's not the equipment, it's the inspections and processes and nobody ...more  
Comment by gary7789 on Oct 04, 2021 11:37am
anyone know if there has been any insider buying or selling lately or if they have been buying back stock to the maximum of their authorization? Hard to imagine what this stock price would do if they weren't buying back any stock, and if they aren't, at what point do they think the stock price is too low. Earnings are due shortly and it seems to me based on the price action that its ...more  
Comment by cpeczek on Oct 04, 2021 12:58pm
The September numbers should be released this week. I will check it and report it here when it's released.
Comment by zalmonella on Oct 04, 2021 4:19pm
The September numbers should be released this week. Is that sales numbers you're talking abou>?  The accounting report wont be released til mid-November. And the fly in that ointment is that none of these interim statements are audited.
Comment by cpeczek on Oct 04, 2021 7:38pm
No, the NCIB. It has to be released within a certain date as an insider filing. The August buybacks were strong but started late. I will check it every day and let you guys know the numbers.
Comment by Jimmycash on Oct 05, 2021 5:16pm
No August share buy backs, little insider activity since management dumped almost $2M shares when stock peaked above $5 back in Dec, Jan. Small buying in deferred shares starting in April but im matterial. Having said that Insiders (8%) and 10% plus ownership (48%) stands at  around 55% so not surprised to see little buying.  Re INK Research Having said that it is hard to go broke when ...more  
Comment by Jimmycash on Oct 05, 2021 5:24pm
Actually 46% of 10% holder are the brothers CEO's
Comment by kboorman on Oct 05, 2021 6:01pm
In August 2021 92,310 shares were acquired and cancelled. In September 2021 76,288 shares were acquired
Comment by Jimmycash on Oct 05, 2021 7:03pm
where did you get your info??
Comment by Jimmycash on Oct 05, 2021 7:08pm
I pay $1K per year for INK Research link.....nothing in sept, 0 in Aug
Comment by Jimmycash on Oct 05, 2021 7:10pm
No issuer buying or selling TTM
Comment by Jimmycash on Oct 05, 2021 7:13pm
Estimated Insider Equity Bias   ? (Oct 5, 2020 to Oct 5, 2021)   Value & Number of Insider:   $ Buying # $ Selling # CEO 0 0  ...more  
Comment by kboorman on Oct 05, 2021 7:29pm
I get my info directly from Sedi.ca, here's a screenshot. May wanna yell at INK Research if they aren't able to give you this publicly accessible info.  If you wanna reproduce this search result follow these instructions: 1. go to Sedi.ca 2. click English 3.click access public filings in the top right corner 4. click view summary reports on the left hand side 5.click 'issuer ...more  
Comment by Jimmycash on Oct 05, 2021 8:04pm
Thanks...will call them tmmr!
Comment by cpeczek on Oct 06, 2021 7:36am
Came here to report this. Buybacks are not being taken advantage of. It's odd because they were buying back strong on the last week of August. Doesn't look good, but doesn't change the valuation is ridiculously cheap.
Comment by gary7789 on Oct 06, 2021 4:02pm
it now seems to me that they are running the price down, probably to below $1.00, to take it private. Anyone who thinks this tire fire of a company is cheap is going to keep taking a bath. 
Comment by cpeczek on Oct 06, 2021 4:30pm
I agree on that motivation. I wonder how that private equity firm that bought a 10% stake in the low 3s feels. By all metrics it is cheap and about a quarter of the market cap is backed up by cash. But is this company investable with uncooperative management? That's really the question. I will hold through and see where it goes.
Comment by gary7789 on Oct 07, 2021 10:42am
probably means Q3 results are very bad and they are burning through cash daily from operations. If that is the case, the stock will get trashed in November when they report. 
Comment by zalmonella on Oct 04, 2021 4:29pm
anyone know if there has been any insider buying or selling lately or if they have been buying back stock to the maximum Volume's been higher in the last 5 weeks but that said, still only about 50-60,000 a day.  If it's true as Finnish Flash suggested that Anson is selling, it could be that AHC is buying that up, though the decline in price tells me it's a futile effort if it ...more  
Comment by gary7789 on Sep 21, 2021 1:59pm
AHC isn't swinging. It is going almost straight down into the ground
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