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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Fortress Global Enterprises Inc - Class A FTPLF

Fortress Global Enterprises Inc produces paper pulp, security papers, and other security-related products. The company through its segments produces dissolving pulp which is primarily used for viscose/rayon manufacturers in Asia. Its business is spread across Asia where it generates most of its revenues, Europe, Canada, and International.

GREY:FTPLF - Post Discussion

Fortress Global Enterprises Inc - Class A > WRONG Contrarion..... I suspect Step 2 IS DILUTION
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Post by HCI_STEEL on Jun 17, 2019 5:07pm

WRONG Contrarion..... I suspect Step 2 IS DILUTION

They have an upcoming interest payment on the debs. More than likely they will be converting the debs to shares, and also have to pay the interest in shares. Existing shareholders are about to get WIPED OUT.
Comment by Contrarian333 on Jun 17, 2019 5:45pm
Actually you are wrong - but its a short while to see who is right.
Comment by HCI_STEEL on Jun 17, 2019 7:57pm
I hold the debs so while it would be nice if I get CASH for my upcoming interest payment, I still don't see how they can come up with it to pay us. Couldn't pay back the debs, had to raise the interest rate to 9.75% and defer....now, like you said, we will know very soon. Share and deb pricing shows my expectation of dilution to be what the majority expect.
Comment by Contrarian333 on Jun 18, 2019 7:47am
You won't make any money doing "what the majority expect".  Paying back the debs vs paying an interest coupon are a completely different level of obligation.  What they have effectively just done with yesterday's announcement and with whatever subsequent financing they will do is kick the can way down the road - creating all kinds of optionality in the business.  ...more  
Comment by HCI_STEEL on Jun 18, 2019 9:31am
Notice the 'extension' runs to one year BEFORE the debs are due!
Comment by nkbourbaki on Jun 18, 2019 1:15pm
What do you mean?  The debs are due Dec 31, 2021.   The moratorium extends to the same date, but may be extended by another 2 years upon further 3rd party financining.  The IQ loan doesn't mature until 2031 (also could be extended another 2 years). I share your concerns about the upcoming interest payment on the debs.  I think they'll figure some way to do it in ...more  
Comment by Contrarian333 on Jun 18, 2019 5:58pm
I imagine there would be a limit on the $$$ of converts that could be tendered for. 
Comment by HCI_STEEL on Jun 18, 2019 10:32pm
There is no limit on repaying the debs in SHARES. I've had it happen on a number of companies debs I have owned in the past, including most recently with TEI (toscana energy). It basically wiped out existing shareholders leaving them with about 5% of the shares post debenture redemption. The debs have to be repaid based on the 20d average share price ie 1000.00 face value deb would need  ...more  
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