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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Sir Royalty Income Fund SIRZF


Primary Symbol: T.SRV.UN

SIR Royalty Income Fund (the Fund) holds investment in SIR Corp (SIR). The Funds' investment, SIR is engaged in the business of owning and operating full-service restaurants in Canada. SIR has concept restaurant brands, including Jack Astor’s Bar and Grill, Scaddabush Italian Kitchen & Bar, and Canyon Creek Chop House, signature restaurant brands, such as Reds Wine Tavern, Reds Midtown Tavern... see more

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Comment by BlueJay2020on Jan 08, 2021 2:15pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:What a mess

You're absolutely correct, not that I (or probably you) would criticise Fowler for not foreseeing that eventuality.   He had his own reasons for not franchising, and they may or many not ...more  
Comment by logicandinertiaon Jan 08, 2021 2:06pm

RE:RE:RE:What a mess

I agree with your points about selling equity at this point in the cycle .   However, if it were a small offering and you were rolling up the trust as part of it, kill 2 birds with one stone and ...more  
Comment by logicandinertiaon Jan 08, 2021 1:39pm

RE:RE:RE:What a mess

I think your last sentence is where I was going with that.   On that franchise point, it can't escape sir that had they been franchised, most of the rent (for the franchisees) would have been ...more  
Comment by BlueJay2020on Jan 08, 2021 1:19pm

RE:RE:What a mess

Now why didn't I think of that?! It's still problematic, though.  Why would you give away equity so cheaply?  Would I be interested in taking a slice of the whole business, rather ...more  
Comment by BlueJay2020on Jan 08, 2021 1:15pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Statement from the Independent Trustees

Indeed they would, and I've been involved on quite a few of these exercises during purchase price equations for accounting purposes (I'm a retired CA).  It's a complex, time-consuming ...more  
Comment by logicandinertiaon Jan 08, 2021 12:49pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Statement from the Independent Trustees

Banker would use multiple valuation methods, including historical results, comparable company (even today, comps are valued much higher), and discounted cash flow (likely using next 5 or 10 years as ...more  
Comment by Ahlavanthanon Jan 08, 2021 12:32pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Statement from the Independent Trustees

Hopefully they aren't looking for backroom handouts before throwing us under the bus.
Comment by wildrunner11on Jan 08, 2021 12:30pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Statement from the Independent Trustees

Well I'm in agreement with Bluejay2020, I bump should occur. We need a proper Business Equity Valuation, from what I know, this would be assessed on revenue stream and then impairment for current ...more  
Comment by logicandinertiaon Jan 08, 2021 12:28pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Statement from the Independent Trustees

as per takeover rules, the independent committee must solicit an independent valuation (usually from a banker) which is used to gauge whether the offer is FAIR  (a fairness opinion) for minority ...more  
Comment by flamingogoldon Jan 08, 2021 12:27pm

RE:RE:What a mess

So was the news released meant to be final or a bargaining chip/bully takeover threat by the Corpotation to get the trustees to come down on their demands?
Comment by logicandinertiaon Jan 08, 2021 12:10pm

RE:What a mess

Reading the statement from the Independent trustees, what SIR CORP may be proposing would be a collapse of the structure, and taking SIR CORP public in the process, as the idea of minority ...more  
Comment by flamingogoldon Jan 08, 2021 11:52am

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Statement from the Independent Trustees

What are the chances the price get renegotiated higher or is this it and we are forked?
Comment by Lazaroson Jan 08, 2021 11:28am

RE:RE:RE:Statement from the Independent Trustees

I completely agree. The structure makes the royalty less attractive without the corporate piece. However, if you read Receipe Unlimited's MD&A's, they are always complaining about how ...more  
Comment by flamingogoldon Jan 08, 2021 11:19am

RE:RE:RE:RE:Statement from the Independent Trustees

"If they are that keen to acquire the royalty stream, that tells me they are prepared to pay more than $3.55" At $3.55 they are robbing us, plain and simple. Even if they pay a buck or two ...more  
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