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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Alaris Equity Partners Income 5 50 convertible unsecured subordinated Debentures T.AD.UN


Primary Symbol: T.AD.DB Alternate Symbol(s):  T.AD.DB.A | ADLRF

Alaris Equity Partners Income Trust (the Trust) is a Canada-based private equity company. The Trust, through its subsidiaries, provides alternative financing to private companies. The Trust’s operations consist primarily of investments in private operating entities. The principal objective of the Trust is to generate stable and predictable cash flows for payment of distributions to unitholders... see more

TSX:AD.DB - Post Discussion

Post by pibopibopibopib on Nov 09, 2022 7:08pm

Goods results

Good but not terrific. Dividend higher, Yeah !
Comment by babedinkleman on Nov 09, 2022 11:27pm
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Comment by TickerTwit on Nov 10, 2022 1:57pm
Yes and no on the dividend. Up 3% in absolute terms, but down in inflation-adjusted terms. Using 7% for inflation, and using "g" to represent the dividend growth rate, the annualized change in buying power of our dividend is: (g-i)/(1+i) = (0.03-0.07)/(1+0.07) = -3.74% Truly, nothing to cheer about. .
Comment by Stonksonlyup90 on Nov 10, 2022 2:00pm
It's not all about the dividend... they are plowing capital back into the business with a record level of investments in the last year. ROI on average investment is still very strong. Management is taking a prudent approach to growing the business with a stable dividend 
Comment by TickerTwit on Nov 10, 2022 4:26pm
It depends on your investment goals. If your primary goal is income growth, on average you want to see dividend increases exceed inflation. .
Comment by babedinkleman on Nov 10, 2022 2:08pm
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Comment by TickerTwit on Nov 10, 2022 4:36pm
SLF just did 4.35% semi-annual (8.9% annualized). CM and BNS have been tracking at about 6% annualized in recent years, and RY at 7%. If you go back 5 years, they're giving you good growth vs inflation (3x for several years in a row). Whether or not they maintain such growth, of course remains uncertain. The last 5 years of Alaris are dismal in comparison. I was hoping Alaris's business ...more  
Comment by TickerTwit on Nov 10, 2022 4:43pm
"But the dividend itself is keeping you even or ahead of inflation." The change-in-buying-power calculation shows that the dividend is NOT keeping up with inflation.  Your buying power has fallen 3.74% with the dividend. The dividend is recognized in the formula ("g"). .
Comment by babedinkleman on Nov 10, 2022 7:50pm
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Comment by TickerTwit on Nov 11, 2022 1:19pm
There isn't enough time left in my cancer-riddled existence to go through all my missed investing opportunities :). My investing goal is income and income growth combined. I want to leave my family a sustainable income that's built on steady-growth enterprises in sectors with high barriers to entry (utilities, banks, telecoms, pipelines). Accordingly, I track dividend growth alongside a ...more  
Comment by mickeymouse on Nov 10, 2022 11:54pm
Change in buying power calculation??? Obviously a 3% increase in the distribution is not equivalent to a 7% increase in the CPI - but I guess your are ignoring the fact that the 3% increase brings the total dividend that Alaris is paying out to a little bit over 8%.  The dividend you receive from Alaris returns more than the rate of inflation no matter how many variables you plug into your ...more  
Comment by TickerTwit on Nov 11, 2022 12:58pm
"The dividend you receive from Alaris returns more than the rate of inflation no matter how many variables you plug into your equation." If the dividend does not increase at least as fast as inflation, the purchasing power of the dividend falls. This is true no matter what the initial dividend (or yield) is. Inflation is a measure of change, but your initial yield is a fixed value ...more  
Comment by mickeymouse on Nov 11, 2022 3:10pm
If the inflation rate is 7% the goods that cost you $100 today will cost you $107 this time next year - If you take that $100 right now and invest it in Alaris you will receive $8 in dividends over the course of the year - so if your original $100 investment stays static for the year you would have $108 - the cost of whatever you are purchasing is $107 - your future purchasing power in a year will ...more  
Comment by TickerTwit on Nov 11, 2022 4:00pm
You have $8 income in your example. If that $8 income remains constant, it loses 6.54% of its remaining buying power every year. Your example indicates you intend to collapse the principal before you can no longer buy the original $100 of goods. You have less than five years to do so. At the end of the 5th year you have $140 and goods cost 140.26, and the gap in buying power grows exponentially ...more  
Comment by SunsetGrill on Nov 21, 2022 9:05am
Neither of you have mentioned Justin,s 50% grab of a trust structure payment (if outside a registered account), of Alaris payments. Also, inflation is paid with after tax dollars. 
Comment by Fannyman2883 on Nov 21, 2022 6:32pm
True, but that's a good thing. Our health care system is crumbling. 
Comment by SunsetGrill on Nov 21, 2022 6:50pm
WOW - its a well proven fact that giving the govt more money will eventually solve all are problems - even when there is no more to give.  Also, FACT No. 2 - they are the best overseers of money and the most efficient program managers than any other institution on the planet. You must be a nurse? If a fed nurse, they havent even figured out how to pay you (or other FED workers) for five ...more  
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