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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  T.BBD.B | T.BBD.P.B | T.BBD.P.C | T.BBD.P.D | BDRPF | BDRXF | BDRAF | BOMBF | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is focused on designing, manufacturing, and servicing business jets. The Company has a fleet of approximately 5,000 aircraft in service with a wide variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments, and private individuals. The Company designs, develops, manufactures and markets two families of business jets (Challenger and Global... see more

TSX:BBD.A - Post Discussion

Bombardier Inc. > Not just there yet
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Post by stockitnow on Apr 10, 2024 6:15pm

Not just there yet

 Interest rate needs to come down for bbd stock to go up.  
 
When indices are up, then business are making money.  And businesses wants cheap money aka low interest loans to invest in new tech/efficiencies and buy equipment to increase productivity. And of course buy business jets.  
 
 
All business jet OEM and tier 1 and 2 suppliers monitor global stock indices.  This is more important to bbd as they are pure play in bizz jet.  They monitor indices  for future jet investment projects.  Global 7500/8000 is little immune as they are for super rich, but Challenger 3500 is impacted.
 
Talking of Challenger 3500, it will be due for refresh sooner then later.  I would like to see bbd take Global 7500/8000 fuselage, shorten it, put new wings and engines to make it more competitive against Embraer and Gulfstream products.
 
While at it bbd should consolidate further by  bringing  final assembly line of Challenger/Global 3500 to Pearson.  Montreal can do interior and final completion while Pearson does final assembly.
 
Airbus is having difficult time with former bbd employees at a220 line to sign new labor contract. It will be done, but will cost Airbus.  In Quebec bbd has to compete with Airbus, Bell,  and Pratt Canada for same employees.  Labor is tight and it will get expensive.  All three mentioned have deeper pockets then bbd and will be attractive to future employees.
 
Bbd also needs to talk about whats next after 2025.  We should hear more about it in the upcoming investor day meeting.  Elephant in the industry is still supply chain issue.  Castings,  raw material, and labor shortage.
Comment by BBDB859 on Apr 10, 2024 9:47pm
Stock. You need to know, just FYI . The CL 3500  was just retooled from the old frame of the CL 350. So it's band new. It took 2 years recertify.  The other thing is. Is that Pearson can't accommodate the Challenger series too. The Challenger will be assembled in St. Larent where it is now. The facility and property in St. Larent is huge. It will get a new facility soon, similar ...more  
Comment by stockitnow on Apr 11, 2024 6:59am
Pearson facilities was built with future increase capacity. Do you think bombardier will build brand new facility with no growth planned? Think about what you are saying.  You say the facility is too big, old, and they need new small one.  All are reason to move the line.  Why spend capital on another site, when you can consolidate.  Bbd is trying to reduce debt not increase ...more