Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

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[bago]

You quoted me lol I don&#39;t see Annick in any of the quotes. Now who is dumb? All of you&nbsp;<br /> permabulls here call others dumb when you guys have alreay<br /> proven your poor choices and assessments here.You have corrected<br /> nothing and in fact give bs numbers. At the current numbers they&nbsp;<br /> are 10 years+ to pay the debt. I know squat and sold out at 1.4&#39;s while you<br /> are holding at higher prices at .77 lol. You can&#39;t even get the LTD number<br /> correct. 1.7 B revenues? 28 planes? As i remember you were way off<br /> the revenue call last quarter and the bomber still came in at a loss of 287 million.<br /> I know th market is pricing the bomber with financials in mind and the market<br /> rarely misses much. I believe it&#39;s probably oversold here but don&#39;t<br /> come here with your tone acting like you know what is going on more than<br /> others. You have been wrog and now whining and bellyaching lol. Nobody needs<br /> you to tell them their financials are they are released every quarter. Lets come back to your<br /> projections on Aug 4 and discuss them. The bomber is treading water and<br /> most know it hence the SP. Nobody has it in for the bomber investors long<br /> or short just looking to make a profit. You guys come here barking at others<br /> like some know it alls that have beern on the wrong side the whole time. You ever<br /> think 1/2 dozen permabulls on some lame bullboard &nbsp;out of millions of investors have it<br /> right and all those millions are clueless and don&#39;t know the bomber?&nbsp;<br /> <br />

BBDB859 wrote: Are you as dumb as you sound there Bago.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> I&#39;m not talking about ignoring you on my last post. I&#39;m talking about your Imbecile supporter Annick, who thinks the Bomber will go under.<br /> <br /> As for you. I told you that all people here are tired answering your stupid, uneducated, wrongful questions and assumtions about the Bomber Finances. Do some math &amp; reading. It&#39;s called DD.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> All you got out of that long winded post of mine was that I&#39;m a whineer. I have a right to be a whinner, having to answer to idiots like you about the Financial misinformation on the Bomber every time you post.<br /> <br /> BTW. If anybody is dillusional here about anything it&#39;s you.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> If you invested the kind of money I did, and what I know about the way this company has been run the past 7 years? Then I&#39;ll let your wining go by too. But don&#39;t just show here in 2022 and start trading &amp; u think you know something. You know squat about the Bomber.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> Here is a test for you. Why do u think that Bombardier&#39;s SP is being pummled right now?<br /> <br /> Don&#39;t say LTD &amp; Financials of the Company. Becasue you are cluless about that. Because everyone of your posts have been corrected by everyone here on the Bomber financials.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="BBQuote"> <div> <cite>bago wrote:</cite> Another long winded post about nothing lol.<br /> You have thrown me on ignore forever, forever lol.<br /> Who cares?? You are a bellyacher because the bomber<br /> took you to the cleaners many times in the past.<br /> I am a shorter? lol. Man you are dellusional<br /> and make up stories like the rest of your buddies.<br /> You guys aren&#39;t really willing to ignore anyone as<br /> you want to defend the bomber on any negative posts<br /> as you are scared those posts may actually have an&nbsp;<br /> effect which they don&#39;t. Yup whiners and bellyachers here<br /> and blaiming anyone they can for whatever reason because<br /> of the bomber&#39;s poor performance.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="BBQuote"> <div> <cite>BBDB859 wrote:</cite> Look at my post again &amp; see what it is about. It&#39;s giving you the facts that you lack on the LTD. You do this every time I read your posts here. Are you brain dead? I&#39;m helping you, with the wrong assumptions u are making on the LTD and you always ask the wrong people on this Board about the LTD. Get it through your thick skull. The LTD is under control. I&#39;ve given u&nbsp; the Facts on the LTD going back to Jan.2021 pre the sale of BT and what&#39;s transpired on the LTD post BT. That&#39;s a fact. The LTD is not the SP destroyer.<br /> <br /> As for me whining. I have a right to do that. I&#39;ve been here as a long as 2016 with this outfit. I&#39;m a businessman, I&#39;m not a trader. All I&#39;ve seen since 2016 is, Managements Business mistakes since I bought in. I had more shares than many people combined here pre- R/S. So you could imagine my dislike of the R?S and this Family&#39;s Ineptitute.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> You on the other hand should be complaining about the SP being down, and why the Market Makers are destroying, or controlling the SP. I know why this is happening &amp; I have my theories about the Manipulations. <u>Your assumptions of LTD &amp; Revs, EBITD&#39;s on the Bomber, are all wrong.</u> I&#39;m not pumping this company. I&#39;m stating facts of the post BT era of Jan. 2021 to u. Read the statements. Unless you are clueless there too? You&#39;ll see the company&#39;s financial achievements since Jan. 2021.<br /> <br /> So stop <u>PROJECTING</u>&nbsp;to me, with the arguments you have with other posters on this Board about Facts. Go see your Psychiatrist to understand the meaning of projection. I know my facts on the FINANCIAL proformance of this company. I only keep repeating the same Facts to you, about your repetitive Financial misleadings here about the Bombers Finances, as your excuse to BASH the company. Get it through thick skull. People here on this Board can&#39;t keep seeing you make wrong assumptions based on the Financial side of the company as the reason for the low SP. The reason for the Low SP is Market Manipulation related. I bet I&#39;m a lot CLOSER to that truth than you are about the SP being down. Because the Financial Metrics of the company post BT, since Jan. 2021 are (NOT) the reasons for the SP Assault. So if you are bright which i think you are btw. Don&#39;t give us your BS here about the LTD, and Financial problems of the Company as the raeson for the SP distruction. Find the REAL reason why the Market Makers are Shorting the Shite out of this Stock, so that you can make a contribution here. I&#39;m not Club, Bicente, or anybody else here, that you have arguments over so many other topics. I call a spade a spade. When this company f%$#&#39;s up, I&#39;m the first to say so, and believe me they f%%$# up a lot. Some of the business decisions of this company are DUMBFOUNDING. So again stop projecting me with other posters arguments that u have. Because I&#39;m just going to throw on ignore for ever. The fact is that I think you are a Shorter of the Bomber stock as well here, and you are always Bashing so you can buy cheap shares, and sometimes even say some good things to sell on the upside. So stop your 2 faced shite with me. I don&#39;t buy your BS &amp; your games. Be a man, and not a weasel, and do your homework and DD on the Financial side of things.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="BBQuote"> <div> <cite>bago wrote:</cite> Even &quot;i know this&quot; lol. You just sound<br /> desperate. One minute it&#39;s the family<br /> and then moaning and whining about<br /> shorts even though you state they lost their ability<br /> to short and so on and so on. You answer all the questions<br /> as if you are giving out facts lol. The permabulls have&nbsp;<br /> been on the wrong side and continue to paint a rosy picture<br /> no matter what. .77 think about it. You guys have been calling<br /> anyone skeptical not knowing the story and so on meanwhile<br /> they have been bang on.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="BBQuote"> <div> <cite>BBDB859 wrote:</cite> Hey Bago.<br /> <br /> The Bomber&#39;s next refinancing is in Dec 2024. The Dec 2024 Note was for $1B. They brought it down to $800M this year in Feb/2022. Just now they also threw another $290M = $500M to renew. The Bomber has paid $5B of LTD since Jan. of 2021. The LTD before Jan./2021 was $11B.<br /> <br /> Debt is getting cheaper from Bond Holders, for Bombardier as the company is paying Debt down. So the interest rates to renew are getting cheaper. They&#39;re (Interest rates) not going to get higher by Dec.2024. No body knows of course, but the Bomber is paying debt at a phenominal rate right now. Debt (LTD) stands at about $6.003B right right now. This and every Quarter coming up this year will show great profits every Quarter. This Quarter I expect to get $1.7B in Revs, based on 28 planes delivered &amp; EBITDA of $360. +FCF of $150M give or take.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> The Market is not saying that Bombardier is NOT doing OK. The Market is<u> PISSED</u> with the R/S and is trying to take control back from pre R/S times. But the problem is right now, that they don&#39;t have enough shares to Naked Short, and play dirty games like they have. Gee Bago I&#39;m not as Savvy, as you as a trader &amp; I know these things. Why can&#39;t you u call a spade a spade. You don&#39;t see the manipulation of the shorts??? Look at the US powerhouses trading this daily. Goldman, JP Morgan, Citigroup, Instanet etc. You think they&#39;re happy that they can&#39;t control the Bomber anymore??? No. They are asserting their control. But it&#39;s only a matter of time. The SP is not indicative of the Bomber&#39;s Value right now. There is a war going on within the Market &amp; Bombardier. Nothing to do with Bombardier&#39;s new growth and profitability. It&#39;s about who controls the SP?? The good guys or the THIEVES. Personally, I don&#39;t know who the good guys are anymore. The good guys may end up to be the BIGGER Thieves.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="BBQuote"> <div> <cite>bago wrote:</cite> Market is saying that&#39;s not enough for now.<br /> At this rate they will need refinancing and that&#39;s<br /> not guaranteed and at higher interest rates. Debt<br /> payments have to speed up if possible and that&#39;s the issue.<br /> Let&#39;s see what they show this quarter.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <div> <blockquote class="BBQuote"> <div> <cite>Micmar wrote:</cite> Yes, 400 millions last year and 350 millions this year.... not bad.&nbsp;</div> <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="BBQuote"> <div> <cite>clubhouse19 wrote:</cite> &nbsp;Looks like they are making back enough to tackle the debt.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="BBQuote"> <div> <cite>bago wrote:</cite> What&#39;s getting missed here is it&#39;s not&nbsp;<br /> about the great planes or how many get sold<br /> or backlog. The issue is magins and how much<br /> FCF they can generate in order to translate in shareholder<br /> returns. It comes down to making money, that&#39;s all.&nbsp;</div> </blockquote> <br /> &nbsp;</div> </blockquote> <br /> &nbsp;</blockquote> </div> <br /> &nbsp;</div> </blockquote> <br /> &nbsp;</div> </blockquote> <br /> &nbsp;</div> </blockquote> <br /> &nbsp;</div> </blockquote> <br /> &nbsp;</div> </blockquote> <br /> <br />

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