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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Baytex Energy Corp T.BTE

Alternate Symbol(s):  BTE

Baytex Energy Corp. is a Canada-based energy company. The Company is engaged in the acquisition, development and production of crude oil and natural gas in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin and in the Eagle Ford in the United States. Its crude oil and natural gas operations are organized into three main operating areas: Light Oil USA (Eagle Ford), Light Oil Canada (Pembina Duvernay... see more

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Baytex Energy Corp > The Middle East is a bigger problem each day
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Post by riski on Nov 10, 2023 12:24am

The Middle East is a bigger problem each day

The facts: the Middle East is in turmoil, and the US has already been drawn into the conflict. They are desperately trying to conceal the degree to which they are involved entirely because of oil. Today, it was leaked that more than two weeks ago, the US camp came under attack by a drone, saved only by the fact that the explosives didn't detonate. 
 
Speculation: I think Biden has his financial wizards working overtime to suppress oil. "Get it down boys, we have a big problem coming up that's going to affect the price"
 
Iran has seen Biden's hand. He is afraid to do anything that will interfere with oil trade, and is avoiding everything that might force him to restrict oil trade as a punishment. So Iran and its allies are taking liberties with the US and their allies. Now Iran has gone too far in some way unknown to us and Biden hast to do something at the urging of his own advisers, as well as other countries leaders.
 
So the plan is to get the oil price low before they impose sanctions/embargo. 
 
The price of oil is a major threat to Bidens, political future. He is going to throw everything he can at it, but now finds himself stock between a rock and a hard place.
Comment by Retiredgeo on Nov 10, 2023 6:10am
Biden conspiracies coming out the yinyang!   Europe is already in recession.  The news out of China and Japan is not encouraging.  Will North America be next?  Maybe the oil and other commodity traders know something the rest of the market doesn't want to acknowledge yet? I am predicting that oil will go sub 70 by the end of this year.  What Baytex will do will ...more  
Comment by masfortuna on Nov 10, 2023 7:52am
China's gdp is forecasted to go to 5.4% in 2024 and 5.6% in 2025. It was revised from 5% for both years this week.  That should have been the main news making ALL the headlines but it didn't. In addition the employment numbers indicate higher unemployment numbers which is what the FED wants in order to bring down inflation. This too should have made big headlines as it appears the ...more  
Comment by kegman on Nov 10, 2023 8:10am
UNfortunately I am leaning the conspiracy bent as well.  If Biden were to see the light, take a bow and not run for re election he could really lean on Iran and help clean up the mess in the ME in his last year. Saudis would appreciate this and keep oil in the low 80's.   It might even allow the conservatives with an IQ to garner some kahonees and move on from the carpetbagger.& ...more  
Comment by GingerEnergy111 on Nov 10, 2023 10:01am
News agencies are controlled around the world by one small group.  No point in gripping about what is a headline and what is not.   Notable is to figure out the agenda.  No where close to conspiracy as noted in a few comments.  More like a "business plan."
Comment by masfortuna on Nov 10, 2023 10:42am
Agree with you.  It's a business plan. It's unfortunate that Canada holding the world's 4th largest oil reserves and oil being our main export doesn't have politicians that can allow us to benefit from it. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! Our politicians are to busy trying to buy votes from the woke crowd at the expense of the country at large. If we destroy our oil ...more  
Comment by Kelvin on Nov 10, 2023 8:21am
Well Retiredgeo, China consumer prices falling back into deflation coupled with factory deflation continuing for the 13th consequecutive month now is causing concern about increasingly weakening demand in China. As you know, deflation is an economic scourge once it establishes itself because people cut back on buying in expectation of lower future prices. A feedback mechanism sets in where falling ...more  
Comment by Retiredgeo on Nov 10, 2023 10:09am
I'm no global economist either.  I just listen to what the gurus say and most of them have subdued predictions for 2024.  I see the oil traders just piling on to the band wagon.  Why now? - maybe China was the excuse to sell.  Will others follow?  Dr Copper is already down 10% from last summer's high.   With an inflation rate of 5% your cash is losing ...more  
Comment by riski on Nov 10, 2023 10:33am
Well we have had many guys like you come and go since March 2020 all predicting an impending drop in the economy. It's not just a few. Like more than 50, especially in the early recovery out of the pandemic. The reality is that the general market is a leading indicator. It's the device that takes all the available data including the few small data points that amateur investors like us ...more  
Comment by Kelvin on Nov 10, 2023 10:37am
Yes retiredgeo cash right now is a losing bet. But if you think that a global correction is coming of say 20% loss in value average in equities like one friend who has gone 75% cash and 25% oil companies like bte as a hedge against inflation losses then that sounds pretty sound thinking to me. He says that he is terrible at timing short term market movements but he's pretty good at identifying ...more  
Comment by Retiredgeo on Nov 10, 2023 10:53am
I thought solid Canadian oil companies were a good bet back in 2014.  An irritated Saudi Crown Prince proved me very wrong!  I don't know of any investment which is safe in today's world.  Everything is a gamble.  Leaving your money in the bank is another losing proposition.
Comment by Kelvin on Nov 10, 2023 11:15am
Yeah the experts say that the only safe investment if you have debt is to pay it off. That way you're not exposed to whatever interest rates do. Because even in deflation interest rates go up cause nobody will lend out their cash without a big premium cause people want to hang onto their dry powder available in order to grab deals from distressed sales from prople desperate for cash. 
Comment by dllscwbysfn on Nov 10, 2023 11:49am
I think your friend is wrong. If the market corrects 20% because of a recession then oil stocks will also drop hard, as will the price of WTI. Years ago the play would have been to buy gold to hedge against a falling market. Not so sure that is the play now though. I do agree with to each his own. DYODD
Comment by Cobalt on Nov 10, 2023 12:40pm
Cash oil barbell , AI oil barbell, as to gold you are right but it is digital gold now Bitcoin up 35% 1 month
Comment by riski on Nov 10, 2023 9:22am
Recession conspiracies coming out of the ying yang!  It's a valid point. The elevator shaft this week could be due to fear of recession, but the rest of the market is not really trading like that. Why just oil? And pretty sharply down. We have been dealing with "China is slowing down" for 2 1/2 years while Biden has been in office. I think he writes those rumour press releases ...more  
Comment by Kelvin on Nov 10, 2023 9:53am
Well about the worst case for demand destruction in recent memory was the pandemic where in May 2020 wti dropped to $40. And it quickly climbed to over $60 from there. Whatever may happen going forward can't be worse than that.
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