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Post by Oldnagger on Dec 30, 2023 6:48pm

TFSA and coal

If you are considering where to invest your TFSA contribution for 2024 , Then I believe Vermilion deserves your serious attention.
The reason is quite simple ; The world is still consuming vast quantities of coal . That consumption rate has even been growing. Huge quantities of nat gas and LNG will be needed to make any kind of dent in coal combustion. VET will benefit based on the fact that there will be less LNG to compete with VET ' s
European production 
Accordingly VET has esentially unlimited headroom to expand their production of European nat gas 
With huge landholdings in Europe a very prospective future awaits the patient investor.
 

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/25-countries-highest-coal-consumption-130914954.html

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Comment by loopsbutterfly on Dec 30, 2023 10:18pm

the stock dividend is a total joke deep pocket guys probably swith their money to other energy stocks like Cardinal by the time energy stock are going nowhere...for a better dividend just my 2 cent

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Comment by Oldnagger on Dec 31, 2023 5:27am

Chasing dividends is fruitless . As soon as the dividend becomes payable the value of the company declines by a similar amount.  Interestingly, however the true value of a company is based on the discounted value of all future dividends. Difficult for many to comprehend , however valid non the less . In other words , the value of the assets and their ability to generate profits which over

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Comment by Quintessential1 on Jan 01, 2024 2:16pm

Yes the value of the company declines by a similar amount but it is hardly fruitless. You instead get your fruit up front.  Just a different investment vehicle.   I doubt loops has any of either. His reports are sketchy at best. GLTA and Happy New Year

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Comment by Oldnagger on Jan 01, 2024 11:57pm

Yes , getting some of your funds back earlier is nice , but then you lose the future earnings that may have occurred if the money had remained in the company. There are also tax consequences for regular accounts. Overall , however , I do not believe that dividend yields should be a major reason for buying or selling a stock. Net assets and earnings are much more important in my esteem and that is

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Comment by Quintessential1 on Jan 02, 2024 8:22am

I agree that VET should outperform CJ on an ROI basis from this point in time and some might lose out on future earnings if they don't reinvest them back into the stock or perhaps in one that has a better ROI at that time.  You also keep that portion payed back to you safe from any future losses and ready to redeploy when and if the time is right. Tax treatments are moot as you are

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Comment by Pandora on Jan 02, 2024 10:04am

  FP/wire say Suncor, rivals hear oil headed for big drop   2024-01-02 08:52 ET - In the News See In the News (C-SU) Suncor Energy Inc The Financial Post reports in its Saturday, Dec. 30, edition that oil headed for the biggest annual drop since 2020 as war and OPEC+ production cuts failed to propel prices higher in a year dominated by supply growth outside of the grouping. A

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Comment by Valneigette on Jan 02, 2024 1:47pm

thing whatever you want I know my holding... sold most of my vet common shares at very high price for a good profit I still own some shares but my lion shares is in another oil company and you should know the company

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Comment by Valneigette on Jan 02, 2024 1:49pm

Loopsbutterfly is my partner and has a full load too

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Comment by Valneigette on Jan 02, 2024 1:57pm

think whatever you want we know

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Comment by Quintessential1 on Jan 02, 2024 2:16pm

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Comment by loopsbutterfly on Jan 02, 2024 4:24pm

We both simply dont care about you and about what you think     

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Comment by Quintessential1 on Jan 02, 2024 4:36pm

Oh no... GLTA

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Comment by loopsbutterfly on Jan 02, 2024 4:41pm

You are just a troublemaker keep us alone !!! We both know what we hold and if you dont believe us we simply dont care

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Comment by Quintessential1 on Jan 02, 2024 5:00pm

Pretty much how I feel about you two and your made up posts. GLTA

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Comment by loopsbutterfly on Jan 02, 2024 6:11pm

no made up posts...just the real fact think whatever you want 

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Comment by Quintessential1 on Jan 02, 2024 6:43pm

I do.  I think your posts are all made up.  LOL GLTA

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Comment by Quintessential1 on Mar 02, 2024 10:23am

Hey loops,  who is posting here? It sure looks like you posting under  Valneigette (45) ••• Comment by Valneigette on Jan 02, 2024 1:47pm thing whatever you want I know my holding... sold most of my vet common shares at very high price for a good profit I still own some shares but my lion shares is in another oil company and you should

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PMSL  draw your own conclusions...here is a hyperlink:
https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard?symbol=vet&threadid=35805361

gracias grinDR

GLTA

[Oldnagger]

If you are considering where to invest your TFSA contribution for 2024 , Then I believe Vermilion deserves your serious attention.
The reason is quite simple ; The world is still consuming vast quantities of coal . That consumption rate has even been growing. Huge quantities of nat gas and LNG will be needed to make any kind of dent in coal combustion. VET will benefit based on the fact that there will be less LNG to compete with VET ' s
European production 
Accordingly VET has esentially unlimited headroom to expand their production of European nat gas 
With huge landholdings in Europe a very prospective future awaits the patient investor.
 

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/25-countries-highest-coal-consumption-130914954.html

[loopsbutterfly]

the stock dividend is a total joke deep pocket guys probably swith their money to other energy stocks like Cardinal by the time energy stock are going nowhere...for a better dividend just my 2 cent

[Oldnagger]

Chasing dividends is fruitless . As soon as the dividend becomes payable the value of the company declines by a similar amount.  Interestingly, however the true value of a company is based on the discounted value of all future dividends. Difficult for many to comprehend , however valid non the less . In other words , the value of the assets and their ability to generate profits which over

[Quintessential1]

Yes the value of the company declines by a similar amount but it is hardly fruitless. You instead get your fruit up front.  Just a different investment vehicle.   I doubt loops has any of either. His reports are sketchy at best. GLTA and Happy New Year

[Oldnagger]

Yes , getting some of your funds back earlier is nice , but then you lose the future earnings that may have occurred if the money had remained in the company. There are also tax consequences for regular accounts. Overall , however , I do not believe that dividend yields should be a major reason for buying or selling a stock. Net assets and earnings are much more important in my esteem and that is

[Quintessential1]

I agree that VET should outperform CJ on an ROI basis from this point in time and some might lose out on future earnings if they don't reinvest them back into the stock or perhaps in one that has a better ROI at that time.  You also keep that portion payed back to you safe from any future losses and ready to redeploy when and if the time is right. Tax treatments are moot as you are

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  FP/wire say Suncor, rivals hear oil headed for big drop   2024-01-02 08:52 ET - In the News See In the News (C-SU) Suncor Energy Inc The Financial Post reports in its Saturday, Dec. 30, edition that oil headed for the biggest annual drop since 2020 as war and OPEC+ production cuts failed to propel prices higher in a year dominated by supply growth outside of the grouping. A

[Valneigette]

thing whatever you want I know my holding... sold most of my vet common shares at very high price for a good profit I still own some shares but my lion shares is in another oil company and you should know the company

[Valneigette]

Loopsbutterfly is my partner and has a full load too

[Valneigette]

think whatever you want we know

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[loopsbutterfly]

We both simply dont care about you and about what you think     

[Quintessential1]

Oh no... GLTA

[loopsbutterfly]

You are just a troublemaker keep us alone !!! We both know what we hold and if you dont believe us we simply dont care

[Quintessential1]

Pretty much how I feel about you two and your made up posts. GLTA

[loopsbutterfly]

no made up posts...just the real fact think whatever you want 

[Quintessential1]

I do.  I think your posts are all made up.  LOL GLTA

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Hey loops,  who is posting here? It sure looks like you posting under  Valneigette (45) ••• Comment by Valneigette on Jan 02, 2024 1:47pm thing whatever you want I know my holding... sold most of my vet common shares at very high price for a good profit I still own some shares but my lion shares is in another oil company and you should