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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum BetaPro Crude Oil Leveraged Daily Bull ETF T.HOU

Alternate Symbol(s):  HZOZF | HROZF

HOU¿s investment objective is to seek daily investment results, before fees, expenses, distributions, brokerage commissions and other transaction costs, that endeavour to correspond to up to two times (200%) the daily performance of the Horizons Crude Oil Rolling Futures Index. HOU is denominated in Canadian dollars.

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Post by katelynragogna on Apr 22, 2020 11:28am

BUY or HOLD.

I see this as Opportunity. Yes its a risky one.
I am willing to take that risk when i look at the bigger picture and I refuse to let panic make me lose sight of it :)
Comment by smashblox on Apr 22, 2020 11:30am
one simple thing ... go to their website and see what is last closing price https://www.horizonsetfs.com/ETF/HOU  and tell me whthere it is 2.32 or .37
Comment by FairMarkets on Apr 22, 2020 11:37am
Read the press release from yesterday.  NAV $0.37.   You must really be screwed on the long side to be spewing this garbage, smashblox. Good luck.
Comment by Copperrun on Apr 22, 2020 11:40am
yah nav was .37 but that was when hod was $30
Comment by MixedMessaging on Apr 22, 2020 11:41am
FairMarkets dont spread your fear and misinfirmation.  News today stated, one times leverage and tracking July Contracts.   You are either very misinformed or bordering fraud.... 
Comment by Drake1234 on Apr 22, 2020 11:50am
This stock resets every day. So you'll be buying $0.37 (well maybe $.50-$.75 after today's action on June WTI) worth of the July contract at 230. Good luck getting back to $2.00 from that level any time soon, especially with no leverage. 
Comment by FairMarkets on Apr 22, 2020 11:51am
You might want to reread the press release. "Effective at 2:30 p.m. (EST) today, it is anticipated by the Manager that the daily performance of HOU will endeavour to correspond to one-times, instead of two-times, the daily performance of its underlying exposure based on an amended rolling methodology described below." "Based on the current rolling methodology employed ...more  
Comment by smashblox on Apr 22, 2020 11:55am
where does it says it will be based on NAV .37
Comment by stwatcher on Apr 22, 2020 11:56am
call them ! They will tell you exactly what their calculation is and how far of the market is trading relative to actual
Comment by valmeidan on Apr 22, 2020 11:58am
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/horizons-etfs-announces-the-estimated-net-asset-value-for-shares-of-its-betapro-crude-oil-2x-daily-bull-etf-at-its-2-30pm-est-valuation-time-829237592.html
Comment by REguy90 on Apr 22, 2020 11:55am
None of that has anything to do with the fact that the underlying NAV is 37c and going to get rekd even further on negative roll yield to the new contract. Sooner or later reality will catch up.
Comment by smashblox on Apr 22, 2020 11:42am
2:30pm is only few hours away. lets see who is right
Comment by Canucks7717 on Apr 22, 2020 11:45am
Are you saying that at 2:30pm we should know if this is going to be adjusted to be trading closer in line to its NAV  or not? 
Comment by katelynragogna on Apr 22, 2020 11:44am
Ill take my chances and hold thanks.  My own personal decision with my own shares.
Comment by uwograd on Apr 22, 2020 11:47am
iAM NEW TO THIS I HAVE 2000 SHARES OF HOU i was reading news on their website . Do not clearly undertand .If they reaches 0 then all investment will be lost or when they rise you will get money back at share price .Please advice on this 
Comment by uwograd on Apr 22, 2020 11:59am
Please advice what should i do buy or sell or hold HOU
Comment by Charlie_Chan on Apr 22, 2020 12:04pm
Sell now and check back around 3:30 to see where the share-price has gravitated. Your potential loss is in multiples to what your potential gain is. 
Comment by MixedMessaging on Apr 22, 2020 12:05pm
Charles, thats the worst advice I've seen.. smarten up
Comment by Charlie_Chan on Apr 22, 2020 12:10pm
We shall see! I'm either right or wrong!  I know I wouldn't hold this presently, but good luck to the ones who can stomach this volitility! 
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