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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bitcoin Fund Units Class A T.QBTC

The Bitcoin Fund (the Fund) is a Canada-based closed-ended investment fund. The investment objectives of the Fund are to seek to provide unitholders of the Fund with exposure to the digital asset bitcoin (bitcoin) and the daily price movements of the United States dollar price of bitcoin, and the opportunity for long-term capital appreciation. The Fund invests in long-term holdings of bitcoin... see more

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Post by FrozenInOntario on Nov 25, 2020 1:46pm

Golden Goose

Understand that these guys wants to boost their management fee by issuing as many shares that they can when bit coin is popular.   This is why they are please to annonce offering after offering.

Howeve, by issuing at NAV when the stock is trading at a premium, this means that there is a transfer of value from current shareholders to current buyers of the issuance.   Typically, a close end fund would offer rights to current shareholders to raise capital and current shareholders by partipating would benefit or at least not loose the premium.

Anyway, this might be legal but not very ethical.  Would not be surprised if management was participating with these offerings.

And, by doing this on a repetitive basis, the premium will eventually die and offering might be a bit more difficult to do.   Anyway, they are not setting themselves up to scale up their business by treating shareholders this way

GLTA
Comment by Moogul on Nov 25, 2020 5:26pm
I agree. My take exactly. I hope they don't continue to do this or somehow change their methodology as you say. If they continue to do this I will take my holdings to GBTC instead. 
Comment by Lawyerup on Nov 26, 2020 12:34am
Correct me if I am wrong but my take is the holders of the issue get an unreal discount then can resell to retail investors for a quick 20+% gain.  It may be legal but sure smells fishy.  When I see things like this going on it brings into question if I want to continue to hold my position here.  The US GBTC seems a better option now.  Just my two cents, Charlie.
Comment by Moogul on Nov 26, 2020 7:30am
Yes and no. They can only flip their shares once the deal closes. But some people would sell there current shares at a premium, on announcement, then buy the newly issued shares. They should make issues share holders hold for a 1-3 month period. Or sell them shares at 50% premium.  regardless now we get to see if the opposite is true... these people who got shares at NAV nuetral on 2 days ...more  
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