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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Suncor Energy Inc. T.SU

Alternate Symbol(s):  SU

Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading, offshore oil and gas production, petroleum refining in Canada and the United States and its Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks... see more

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Suncor Energy Inc. > Oil goes up SU goes down...
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Post by mbuch on Oct 21, 2021 3:03pm

Oil goes up SU goes down...

Oil goes down SU goes down twice as hard as it's peers.
Comment by thegreattimario on Oct 21, 2021 4:19pm
Because the market believes suncor has the worst management out there. There is very little confidence that the idiots running suncor can progress to a better future for the company. I'm personally giving this stock 3 more quarters and if they haven't laid a better game come then i will sell my shares and buy a gic as i can make more money at this rate of return.
Comment by ilvmyt5s on Oct 21, 2021 4:26pm
Who are these people who think management is doing a bad job? they're doing an excellent job buying back their shares at half price to their peers. Might be a little present under the tree this year...that would really change things for some people who are heavily invested in SU. lol
Comment by thegreattimario on Oct 21, 2021 5:37pm
It's trading at the same price it was 8 years ago. So if your a longterm investor all you have to show for it is what you have earned in divys. And even that now has been slashed. Great if you got in recently on the dip but those who owned before have been given a big fu. I was hoping this thing would hit 35 so i could dump my remaining shares but i really don't think that day will ever ...more  
Comment by Obscure1 on Oct 22, 2021 10:17am
A chimp could make the decision to buy back shares in this market. The market doesn't reward chimps.  The market rewards creative thinking, well thought out and executed business plans, and bold decision making. SU is sticking to its five year plan to lower costs which is admirable, but the market hasn't seen anything creative or bold for a long time.
Comment by autofocus111 on Oct 22, 2021 10:37am
SU is no chimp. It's an 800lb gorilla trapped in the ESG cage. When the profit figures begin coming in quarter after quarter like a steamroller, some institutional firms and hedgefunds will be inexorably attracted to the SU printer spitting out cash, and bring forth the key that will unlock the cage and set it free.
Comment by Experienced on Oct 22, 2021 10:50am
Perhaps The public narrative and the political push is to significantly reduce the demand for oil.  While many here, including myself, think this narrative is full of holes, to the "unwashed hordes" this is what they believe - it is their reality like it or not. So to these people, the company buying back shares so that they have a bigger percentage share of the company with the ...more  
Comment by firstworld on Oct 22, 2021 11:05am
Makes no sense since they are getting BNs more welfare injection to reduce carbon emissions on the backs of 14 hr day mom and pops trying to send their kids to uni LOL.
Comment by Experienced on Oct 22, 2021 10:42am
Yep The market is paying and probably overpaying for creativity and imagination.  Financial engineering  is generally boring unless you an accountant.
Comment by bigbear4511 on Oct 22, 2021 11:50am
Buying back shares makes the company stronger and will increase the share price over time.  Why you ask? Simple, because less shares equals less dividends to payout, resulting in cash output being decreased.  Same with paying back debt.  Less debt less cash outflow to service those debts. More money retained. If you increase dividends cash outflow increases and you have less money ...more  
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