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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Sylogist Ltd T.SYZ

Alternate Symbol(s):  SYZLF

Sylogist Ltd. is a Canada-based company, which provides software-as-a-service (SaaS) solutions. The Company provides enterprise resource planning (ERP), constituent relationship management (CRM), fundraising, education administration and payments solutions. It operates through three verticals: SylogistMission, SylogistEd, and SylogistGov. It refers its software solutions and related services... see more

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Sylogist Ltd > This doesn't add up!!!
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Post by Robertson on Apr 23, 2021 12:50pm

This doesn't add up!!!

I’m new to this board but this is what I see coming in Q2 and the full year.  Sylogist seems like an interesting prospect but when you dig into the numbers I can’t make sense of what’s going on with the stock price.  Is this another pump and dump by management?
 
This is what I see coming:
 
Revenue flat (no growth) compared to last year, even with the past two acquisitions. (Foreign exchange working against the revenue number, renewal rates are down 20%+ in Q1, no new large contracts announced that replace the contract that accounted for 10%+ of revenue in Q2 last year and the past several years).
Earnings about half of last year – perhaps 6 cents per share in Q2.
Margins shrinking as high margin recurring revenue falls.  
Expenses on the rise with new overhead from US executive team (high salaries and bonus incentives based on stock price), new board costs, TSX costs, interest expense, heavy legal and advisory fees, new employee hirings.
An unsupportable dividend of $0.125 per quarter (likely 200% of reported profit) – 50 cents per year ($12M total) which will require cutting.
No net cash left on the balance sheet (cash fully committed with the new debt).
Insiders selling large blocks (over $4.3M in the past couple of weeks) during a blackout period (Poor results on the way?).
 
 What am I missing here?
Comment by retiredcf on Apr 26, 2021 6:29am
What you're missing is that you're not only new to this BB, you're new to SH having  only joined two weeks ago so you can bash SYZ.  How's that working out for you? I won't be around to hear your answer as you're heading for the bin. GLTA
Comment by Robertson on Apr 26, 2021 11:17am
Not bashing, just stating the facts.  BTW I am a shareholder, one who's concerned about fair representation of the results.  You know what happens when promotion gets well ahead of performance - things end badly.
Comment by 4frankly on Apr 26, 2021 1:24pm
expectations from announcements/deals since then... look over the press releases
Comment by beancounter11 on Apr 26, 2021 10:42pm
  you better cover your short pretty soon, too much good news and when they release earnings that will be another catalyst.  This company is growing up moving to the TSX and now having conference calls is not promotion it is adding value to shareholders.  
Comment by pacer217 on Apr 27, 2021 9:54am
One very small shareholder's opinion;   I think, IF "Robertson" is a share holder as he suggests, then this looks like he has a small position, and missed his chance to add /  average up. SYZ got away from him. To suggest that the promotion has gone too far. WHAT // promotion?.  All they did was expand company, increase dividend twice, move to TSX.  Promotion ...more  
Comment by Robertson on Apr 27, 2021 1:28pm
Let's continue this discussion after the second quarter results are released.  That should happen this week if things are on the same schedule as last year.  I'd be happy to apologize for my doubts if the results show profit improvement compared to last year.  
Comment by retiredcf on Apr 29, 2021 1:37pm
Just took advantage of today's decline to add a few more. GLTA
Comment by pacer217 on May 05, 2021 3:32pm
You may be the smartest person in the room! I was thinking of adding around 1 PM , but went to lunch instead. You are up .50 cents in 80 minutes. I missed another opportunity.  Story of my life.!
Comment by Robertson on May 13, 2021 8:39am
WOW - It turns out I was an optimist in forecasting results despite other views.  These results show a business on a rapid decline. Revenue down even including last year's acquisition and a small piece of the new one. Forward revenue likely down as deferred revenue is lower than last year INCLUDING two acquisitions! Profit down by more than half. No wonder insiders were ...more  
Comment by u8fish on May 13, 2021 11:26am
During the three-month period ended March 31, 2021, Sylogist delivered Adjusted EBITDA of $4.4 million, or 50% of total revenues of approximately $8.9 million. Revenue decreased 6% compared to the same period in the last fiscal year. This decrease was due mainly to unfavorable movements in the USD/CAD exchange rate and to an unfavorable comparison to the same period of last fiscal year due to a ...more  
Comment by Robertson on May 13, 2021 12:25pm
Yes, that's the press release wording but the reality is different.  Sylogist pays taxes, incurs interest expenses, capitalizes R&D and now pays stock compensation - all ultimately cash payments.  EBITDA no longer reflects cash generated by the company.  The cash generated by the company no longer covers the dividend payment.   The decline in the US dollar directly ...more  
Comment by profitprophet1 on May 13, 2021 12:29pm
I trust then that we can say goodbye to you then? No use hanging around if the company is in such dire straits. If you haven't sold out and are gone I'm not sure what's holding you back. Toodles.
Comment by Robertson on May 13, 2021 12:54pm
I hate to see people get burned by not being informed.  At least now you know some of the facts. You can hold on and hope that some fool will buy your stock at higher price, and they may in this market. Most often ignorance and greed go hand-in-hand but logic finds success in the longer run. I wish you well.
Comment by u8fish on May 13, 2021 12:56pm
Their earnings can be lumpy depending on implementation schedules on projects etc. so comparing Q to Q can be difficult. I suggest you get on the conference call and ask that question straight up. If they can't answer directly then you have reason for concern. I believe they will continue to grow the business but we will see. 
Comment by 4frankly on May 17, 2021 1:39pm
exec comp seemed extremely excessive and certainly feeds doubts as to whether their interests are at all aligned with shareholders....
Comment by Robertson on May 17, 2021 6:05pm
So true!  Management holds almost no equity interest in the company so they can use your investor money to do as they please. This includes paying themselves too much or taking risks with the hopes of a big win on their options or bonus plans.  Unlike investors, there's no downside for management.  
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