DON and PANDORAThey need to give a hint of upfront payments so that investors don't fear another PP to soon, also some hint or range of royalties expected, and possibly a range of targeted sales. Any numbers that would interest investors to bring more reality to these 'deals'. Now that a China deal is pending, they could hint at the R + F numbers at least. Too much strategic secrecy. Pandora, of course they won't read this chatter here but I am in contact with them often by email, but that is a slow process and they take a long time to answer even a few times. I have contacted them about information dissemination most recently and might get an answer soon. They seem to go into seclusion and always tell that things are moving along fine and I let my thoughts be known but they have their thoughts on how to proceed and they don't necessarily coincide with ours. Patience and gentle nudging is the best I can do for now. I think they are stretched very thin and answering to shareholders often takes a back seat. We will persist, however, and hope our investments reap huge rewards. GLTA Bealert