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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Sagres Energy Inc V.SGI

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Sagres Energy Inc > Dampier's comments on Trident
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Post by PulpCutter on Jan 31, 2023 10:55pm

Dampier's comments on Trident

The following is from Damier's 2018 response to Vango's takeover offer*. Dampier is responding to an unsolicited takeover, and advising their shareholders not to accept the offer.

>Vango and Dampier both have an interest in the K2 Project, which is the most advanced project in Vango’s portfolio. 

>If you accept the Offer and receive Vango Shares, you will be diluting your interest in the K2 Project and taking on greater exposure to Vango’s less developed and riskier project portfolio.

>Other than the K2 Project, which is near to development, Vango will need considerable exploration and resource evaluation capital in order to advance any of the Plutonic Dome Gold Projects. 

Trident, Vango’s next more developed project, has well known and significant technical extraction risks which may make it difficult, if not impossible, to mine.

 

The Dampier Board notes the following in relation to Vango’s Trident Project, on which it appears recent positive moves in the price for Vango Shares are based:

• the Trident deposit has well known and significant technical extraction risks which may make it difficult, if not impossible, to mine. In particular:

o the geology and extreme deformation in the ultramafic host to the Trident mineralisation (the sequence is extremely sheared and folded with very high-water flows into the host stratigraphy) give rise to significant concerns regarding the ability of the mineralisation to be extracted by underground mining methods;

o the geotechnical aspects of the mineralisation are likely to provide extremely poor ground conditions for underground mining; and

o previous attempts to access the deposit via a box cut and decline were unsuccessful primarily due to very high-water inflow into the decline;

• 56% of the existing mineral resource estimate for Trident is in the Inferred Resource category, which represents the lowest level of confidence;

• the existing mineral resource estimate for Trident was reported by Dampier (when it owned the Plutonic Dome Gold Project, which includes the Trident deposit) under the 2004 JORC Code;

• given the geological and geotechnical concerns referred to above, it can be expected that any underground mining would be subject to very high dilution of the ore with the surrounding barren or low-grade host rock. This means there may be concerns regarding the Trident mineralisation being able to be classified as a resource under the 2012 JORC Code;

• recent drilling by Vango has focused on the potential resource extensions to the main Trident deposit and as such most of the recent drilling is along strike and below the current resource estimates; and

• to properly assess Trident, detailed exploration and geotechnical work is required which is expected to be at a significant cost.

Dampier believes there is considerable risk that the Trident project is likely to be uneconomic due to geotechnical issues.

 

*https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/ann-dau-supplementary-targets-statement.4498051/

Comment by petersburggray on Feb 01, 2023 5:07am
Nice find Pulpcutter! Trident having "extremely poor ground conditions for underground mining" is kiss of death, code for any underground works excavated at Trident likely collapse potentially burying the hard Rock miners alive. The water issue at Trident make poor ground conditions worse and explain why previous operator permitted box cut at Trident but then abandoned mine. Excellon ...more  
Comment by Goldcamel on Feb 01, 2023 6:31am
Pathetic! .. quotes from 5 years ago from a hostile takeover bid war where the first casualty was the truth not only is Trident high grade with over 800k JORC the past 5 years of extensive drilling has revealed over 65% is open cut drilling and has not exceeded 100 metres in depth whereas K2 which ZAG has a whopping 4.1% and SGI with the remote possibility of earning up to 50% but must contribute ...more  
Comment by petersburggray on Feb 01, 2023 7:23am
Lets circle back to topic at hand, Trident. Resolute  permitted portal and waste dumps at Trident. Why did Resolute abandon development of Trident so as to have feed for the mill at K2? Plenty of room left in K1 open pit for tailings storage. From Dampier filing reason is that due to ground conditions, an underground mine at Trident prone to collapse, potentially burying hard rock miners ...more  
Comment by PulpCutter on Feb 01, 2023 10:45am
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Comment by PulpCutter on Feb 01, 2023 11:12am
Mark: This isn't the Catalyst board.  We're all familiar, here, with what a liar you are.  Just as Justice Martin and Justice Smith found Vango was a repeat liar. Good luck convincing the Catalyst sheep, who don't know you as well yet. You're wasting your breath, here. Incidently, condolences on the $1.5 million you've lost, as your 10 million Vango shares have ...more  
Comment by Goldcamel on Feb 01, 2023 12:15pm
Strange with all your postings and concerns I thought it was a VAN board. You seem to know me and my financial position on VAN (which I will keep for my accountant as a record to significantly reduce my tax burden) but alas I know cowards like you who wont reveal their name will always  be so brave behind keyboard anonymity and say lies upon lies to prop up their own  delusions of ...more  
Comment by PulpCutter on Feb 01, 2023 12:28pm
'...reduce your tax burden.."   LMAO.  Do you think anyone here believes you?
Comment by Goldcamel on Feb 01, 2023 12:44pm
You really think I  give rats behind what anyone believes coward?
Comment by PulpCutter on Feb 01, 2023 12:47pm
You've down $1.5m...so far. LMAO  
Comment by Goldcamel on Feb 01, 2023 12:57pm
Coward who Lies..firstly I have more than 10 million shares in multiple entities in VAN I have been a shareholder for over 19 years with over 500 trades in VAN together with option and rights take ups plus package options now coward please repeat my holdings and my so called loss together with your name so our lawyers can trade pleasantries. You won't so this ends the matter.
Comment by PulpCutter on Feb 01, 2023 1:05pm
Over the last forty years, I've occassionally sent shipping containers of old Harley and British 'parts' bikes to a port in Australia.  This started long ago when a group of Aussies came over to round up bikes themselves, and need a truck to borrow.   I have a standing offer to visit and take a tour around.  Now that I'm mostly retired, I need to take then up ...more  
Comment by tannin on Feb 01, 2023 3:53pm
Goldcamel, no reason to imply legal threats; PulpCutter, no reason for personal insults. You both invested in really badly managed companies, the legal disputes didn't help, but the serious damage was all self inflicted. WE all have losses. Congrats Goldcamel on CYL t/o offer, not what you might have hoped for, obviously, but not unreasonable.....even generous ? Sorry about the loss, but, part ...more  
Comment by tannin on Feb 01, 2023 8:37pm
Goldcamel, CYL will do a deal with SGI, within months, to process Marymia ore... something vango refused to do for years. For Marymia, all roads lead to SGI, cyl understood that from the getgo, how come McInnis didn't. I heard him talk such rot, 'he wanted a mill custom made to Marymia's requirments,' or some such guff......and you wrote on this site, telling us that our mill was ...more  
Comment by Goldcamel on Feb 01, 2023 11:20pm
Tannin thank you and you are correct you have always been a civil voice for sensibility and reason.. I know first hand that VAN tried to do a deal with SGI over the last 5 years starting with Bradbrook. His first and only position was 40% of all of Marymia and a one sided OTA. I will concede that both parties egos didn't help any compromised solution. Jordaan just wouldn't engage and IMO ...more  
Comment by tannin on Feb 02, 2023 1:51am
Goldcamel, you are welcome sir. Banter between bright people with opposing views should not, must not, become toxic....if we can't keep it together, what hope is there for the serious disagreements on the planet. Respect is required. Interesting historical info on earlier attempts to work together.....sounds like the wrong two people to have engaged.....and disappointed that both Boards didn ...more  
Comment by petersburggray on Feb 05, 2023 9:24am
This 62 page document authored by Malcolm Carson, rip, is very interesting. Keep in mind Malcolm Carson was a former Rothschild banker and former high level WA burocrat with expertise in natural resources. Document explain how he,Carson, structured sale of dampier plutonic dome tenements so as to avoid offering dampier plutonic dome interest to northern star as required by previous contract. This ...more  
Comment by PulpCutter on Feb 05, 2023 3:44pm
In response to potientially-negative information like that, the CYL faithful routinely respond "I trust CYL management to have done the due diligence for me". That's the first time I've heard investors say that, and I am dumbfounded that these investors are not broke yet.   Stunning lack of willingness to work, and sweat to study the details.  Guess where that& ...more  
Comment by tannin on Feb 07, 2023 3:21am
Great info.....we win, either super big, or just big. Even with no legals, the facts on the ground all spell out a win for SGI. Just as well, as our management have failed twice in 4 years in rather spectacular fashion ......so if our guys/gals make stupid decisions that keep knocking us back to square one, I for one will listen to any reasonable offer. Our gold mine had a decent profit for this ...more  
Comment by PulpCutter on Feb 07, 2023 5:07pm
Agree, except IMO that "right management" is not CYL. CYL has gone from being totally-focused on the Whitelaw Belt, to diverisfying into buying a 6k/qtr tiddler in Tasmania, to now trying to acquire a real bottomless cash-sink in FIFO Western Oz. BTW, Gina Rinehart bought in, arguably, over the Whitelaw Claims. Note it was her Gold Exploration Victoria subsidiary that did the buyng ...more  
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