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Post by HVIMesson Feb 07, 2018 10:14am

HVI-Mess

I believe there is case for class action here. Horizon stopped publishing end of day NAV as of today for HVI. They know they screwed up. On the page titled mechanics of HVI, horizon clearly states the ...more  
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Comment by HVIMesson Feb 07, 2018 10:13am

RE:CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT

I believe there is case for class action here. Horizon stopped publishing end of day NAV as of today for HIV. They know they screwed up. On the page titled mechanics of HIV, horizon clearly states the ...more  
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Comment by HVIMesson Feb 07, 2018 10:12am

RE:Horizons explanation doesn’t make sense

I believe there is case for class action here. Horizon stopped publishing end of day NAV as of today for HIV. They know they screwed up. On the page titled mechanics of HIV, horizon clearly states the ...more  
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Comment by YupnDumpon Feb 07, 2018 9:56am

RE:RE:Horizons explanation doesn’t make sense

call Jim Cramer... ding ding bang bang honk HONK....BOO YAH
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Post by Iseneschalon Feb 07, 2018 9:52am

Good morning evryone............

I slept in ! Things are shaping up and in our favor. Small support for the VIX fute around sub $20 which should be broken quite easily.... Then it will drop very quickly to $17 ish. Stay tuned....... ...more  
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Comment by Nakateon Feb 07, 2018 9:03am

RE:Horizons explanation doesn’t make sense

Thats the thing because Horizon has to rebalnce after hr's the guys in the pits off load there garbage to a captive buyer instead of having to fully eat their mistakes. how sweet is that
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Post by SAGE1on Feb 07, 2018 4:36am

Misfortunate tales

I made a few bucks on this a few years ago. Started looking at it again a couple of weeks ago after HVU  did another 5:1 reverse split.  The market started to wobble so I put the idea on ...more  
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Post by lithomonon Feb 07, 2018 1:47am

Horizon's ETF - Get Your Money Out

It took these failed ETF's to illustrate to investors, it's time to get back to the good old days of investing and buying into companies your way, not the Horizon way - time to get back into ...more  
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Post by Mulva44on Feb 07, 2018 1:04am

Horizons explanation doesn’t make sense

They claim after hours volatility “impaired” the trading of the underlying derivatives. The Vix futures went from the low 20’s to close to $39 at 4PM and this thing was still $13.00. Horizons claim ...more  
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Comment by Nakateon Feb 06, 2018 11:26pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:Will this every be back to 20?

I figure they are designed off load the risk from the big boys to the retail gamblers hence the after hr's rebalancing.
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Comment by driller1aon Feb 06, 2018 10:36pm

RE:RE:RE:Will this every be back to 20?

These things are designed to destroy the wealth and savings of the common people. They’re all designed to go to zero.
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Post by lithomonon Feb 06, 2018 10:02pm

Buy Good Miners (hard assets in the ground) - ETF's Flawed

That's why I never participate in ETF's.  It's a FLAWED instrument.  This Horizon's Debacle clearly illustrates this Flawed process.   I buy the hard assets in the ...more  
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Comment by marxisteon Feb 06, 2018 6:42pm

RE:RE:RE:can it be liquidated?

The curves shows this ... 11 february 11 2016, HVI was at 3.00.  SP500 was at 1860.  VIX at 19.  January 8, 2018, two years later, SP500 was at 2860, VIX as move between 9,5 and 25 but ...more  
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Post by jicoopon Feb 06, 2018 6:11pm

Horizons blurb about HVU

Reminder to those wondering why HVU, HVI acted abnormally today : The Manager’s decision followed its assessment of the extreme volatility in VIX-futures markets that occurred in after-hours market ...more  
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Comment by YupnDumpon Feb 06, 2018 5:50pm

RE:RE:RE:CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT

forget..like floggng a dead horsei
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