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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Canadian Banc Corp T.BK

Alternate Symbol(s):  CNDCF | T.BK.PR.A

The Companys investment objectives are (i) to provide holders of Preferred Shares with cumulative preferential floating rate monthly cash dividends at a rate per annum equal to the Prime Rate plus 0.75%, with a minimum annual rate of 5.0% and a maximum annual rate of 7.0% (ii) to provide holders of Class A Shares with regular floating rate monthly cash distributions targeted to be at a rate per... see more

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Canadian Banc Corp > A contrarian view
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Post by Obscure1 on Aug 21, 2023 1:21pm

A contrarian view

I believe the Evergrande filing reinforced fears of another banking tremor.  Maybe not a black swan event but the banking industry in the USA has been testing lower boundaries all year including the recent FED threat to force 6 mid-size banks to re-capitalize.

I don't see a pathway to the FED raising rates on Sept 20th and I highly doubt that the BoC will announce a rate increase on Sept 6th as all the metrics that I follow suggest a "wait and see" strategy. .  

What are we really looking at for the banks in the short run?

I guess we will find out this week.  I don't expect any traumatic increase in loan loss provisions which is what really moves the banks stox.  In fact, I think we will hear a "business as usual" message from the banks with a bias towards holding rates.

I spoke to IR at Quadravest recently about BK.  The don't keep tract of institutional vs retail holdings but the indication was that they believed that a large majority of both the BK and BK.PR.A shares are held by retail investors.  That kinda surprised me as I expected the prefs to be held by funds while the commons would be held by retail. 

My gut tells me that the spike down in the BK share price is more a function of a fear-response from retail investors worried about the 2x leverage than any "exit" from pros.

Mouse:  I don't think that net selling of 40,000 shares by Anonymous is an indication of anything ominous.  I certainly appreciate all that you do here and the chart that you provided today reinforces my belief that BK is widely held by retail investors.  Retail investors almost always react on emotion and often make the wrong decision in moments of uncertainty.  

I was going to buy more at $12.60 but didn't.  I think I will regret that decision by the end of the week.
Comment by marketsense on Aug 21, 2023 3:41pm
Agree,  Obscure about the fear of contagion over the fallout from Evergrande.  That combined with a general fear over a prolonged recession would be enough for many retail holders to exit until things settle.  By the time they do,  it will be too late for those same investors to buy back in because those same bank stocks  will have already started to move back up.   ...more  
Comment by mouserman on Aug 21, 2023 5:03pm
So retail inverstors dont shortsell? Is that what you are trying to say? Anonymous is most often used to hide your trading house, which has to borrow shares from somewhere. At times they borrow it in house, and that  is when they really dont want their clients to see the short statistics. At any rate the LIONS Share of selling since the midmonth report was done anonomously, and it was not ...more  
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