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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum H&R Real Estate Investment Trust T.HR.UN

Alternate Symbol(s):  HRUFF

H&R Real Estate Investment Trust is a Canada-based real estate investment trust. The Company owns, operates and develops residential and commercial properties across Canada and in the United States. The Company operates through the four segments: Residential, Industrial, Office and Retail. The Residential segment consists of approximately 24 residential properties in select markets in the... see more

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H&R Real Estate Investment Trust > The Nber recession guideline
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Post by Torontojay on Jul 22, 2023 8:46am

The Nber recession guideline

The National Bureau of Economic Research looks at 7 things in determining if the economy is in a recession. So far there are some signals flashing a recession but some that are not. Let's go over this. 


1) Gdp and GDI - real gdp in the last 2 quarters annualized is ~ 2.2% which is in line with the trend rate of the economy. This is not flashing a recession signal just yet. 

GDI (gross domestic income) - this is negative in the last 2 quarters and would suggest a recessionary contraction. In theory, real gdp and real GDI should be equal. It is worth noting that if you aggregate the 2 ; namely, gdp and GDI then we get a recession signal. 


2) real retail sales - The Nber likes to look at retail as it is a big part of consumption spending. When adjusted for inflation, retail sales is in a recession. 


3) industrial production - with a further contraction in June, it is clear that industrial production is now contracting and in recession territory. 


4) real personal consumption expenditures - this is not flashing a recession sign just yet. I get a 2.5% annualized growth over the last 6 months. 


5) real personal income less transfers - we are not in a recession but it is trending below historical averages 

6) household survey - although initial claims is starting to rise, it is too early to call it a recession. 


7) non farm payrolls- the last report was the lowest in a while, it is still far from recessionary contraction. 


Overall, I would say there are signs that a recession is about to arrive but we could still be several more months away from that. In my opinion, once the unemployment rate reaches 4% then the recession has already begun.

Comment by SNAKEYBOY on Jul 22, 2023 2:52pm
Recession is a scary word but its not like they last long and a lot of times looking back they cant even establish if it was a recession or not, then the numbers get readjusted etc. Not really relevant unless its a steep one or depression.  HR business will be the same regardless IMO
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