Post by
MyHoneyPot on Jun 14, 2024 11:29am
Share buy backs do not serve Share Holders
Share buybacks are a destruction of Capital and Economic opportunity for Energy companies.
The buying back of shares, sends a 2% Royality to Justine Trudeau while at the same time evaporates capital off the balance sheet, limiting the growth and opportunity in the energy industry in Canada.
Share buybacks occur when the companies are generating large amounts of FCF and are considered by some as a return to the shareholders, but in my opinion, nothing could be further from the truth.
When you have the most FCF to buy back shares are when commodity prices are high, meaning you are buying back your shares when market conditions are good. Now when market conditions are bad you have blown the wad and are forced to reduce Capex.
Share buybacks slow down investment, investors buy energy companies because we think this commodity space has a future, not to watch oil companies put a cap on the industry and evaporate capital.
Time is money, and with billions of dollars of resources sitting in the ground that could provide significantly more returns to the shareholders, increase FCF, and a larger production base.
People do not buy energy companies; to watch them buy back their shares, this is only good for the long-term insiders that have a job at these companies and is not good for the shareholders of the company.
Really in Kelt case in point you witness growth in the NAV every year that demonstrates significant shareholder return. However, there is more that does not always show up in the reserve report, but they have confirmed the resource in place and have gained knowledge and insight into their play areas. This can only be done by investing capital and share buybacks don’t do that.
Most of these share buybacks is because management is not sophisticated, they don’t know how to grow the company and don’t want to give special dividends or increase the dividends for shareholders.
Even more disgusting is companies that on month are buying back shares, the next month issuing new shares (Under subscribed), writing down assets for fire sales, blow up their resource base, over pay for a new asset space, employ Eric Nuttal to pound the table that management has found religion, and when all the smoke clears hand a sign of VERITY on the company, and are not a Montney/Duvernay company with the best wells on the Planet.
I am comfortable that the value of Kelt is growing at an exponential rate, and that share buyback would simply add stress to the company, and the balance sheet, pay Trudeau, and evaporate Share Holder Capital.
IMHO
Comment by
Seppelt on Jun 14, 2024 12:12pm
You must have plenty of time writing a philosophy book about buybacks which are not applicable to this company because it doesn't generate any free cash. When it does, hopefully in the near future when the cash is plenty and oil/gas prices are strong and stable, it will be a different discussion.
Comment by
Seppelt on Jun 15, 2024 3:15pm
I own WCP, often trading a portion, holding the rest. I am OK with buybacks, at least a minimum to avoid any dilution due to options, rewards, etc. But I wish their dividend wasn't so generous and instead they would prioritise paying off the debt. Nothing is perfect.
Comment by
Trapped on Jun 17, 2024 6:59am
Wrong. Buybacks take time to reset key metrics but it would take someone with an attention span longer than that of an average garden flea to understand their value.
Comment by
gassygeezer on Jun 17, 2024 12:49pm
i second this philosophy...it's the old game being played with a new name
Comment by
gassygeezer on Jun 18, 2024 10:17am
With ubiquitous options selling, these 55 may be the highest paid team in Oil/gas, performance notwithstanding
Comment by
Trapped on Jun 17, 2024 2:15pm
I will buyback into ARX at $17.50 on the next downturn. -- Don't hold your breath.
Comment by
gassygeezer on Jun 18, 2024 10:09am
MHP, perhaps you should have held Arx and dumped vs pumped Kelt. Obviously,tangibly proven better returns...Arx hedging improved significantly, how has Kelt hedged dry gas on their major capex in BC?...jiust get realistic,most here retain shares while watching dilution to mgmnt...AND Kelts favoured Contractors(hopefully arms length?)
Comment by
gassygeezer on Jun 18, 2024 12:36pm
Disagree, how many Insider purchases in Kelt during 2024? Try selling out a big position in Kelt without price capitulation, a big risk Timing applies to both companies,one has scale and a mandate to continue growing,other to sell oportunistically(in some cases to those with infrastructure), problematic timing can lead to squeeze plays..ie Inga