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on Jul 30, 2014 12:47pm
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FP Article
I think the transaction with Aspenleaf should be expected, given Arcan's high debt. This is the typical end for the heavily indebted companies.
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on Jul 29, 2014 11:49pm
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I trade debs for ten bucks, so no problem trading at that price.
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on Jul 29, 2014 12:33pm
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FP Article
Fair points JD - but debenture trading is expensive. I was tempted to press the eject button after the deal was first announced, but I have nowhere better to park the funds. My brokerage
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on Jul 29, 2014 12:00am
RE:RE:RE:RE:FP Article
As I replied to rad, that may be the plan. I certainly wouldn't be holding the debentures, as the limited upside is offset by the risk of a lower price after the deal is rejected. But down the
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on Jul 28, 2014 10:42pm
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JD, If you are long the debentures, why not sell now and buy back at a much lower price after the deal is voted down?
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RE:RE:FP Article
You make a good point, rad. I might join you in buying those debs.
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on Jul 28, 2014 6:17pm
RE:FP Article
Hilarious but true - at the end of the day the assets are around 610 million, the liabiliities are 380 million. I am happy to load up on these debentures when the proposed deal falls on it
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on Jul 28, 2014 6:11pm
FP Article
https://business.financialpost.com/2014/07/25/arcan-resources-ceo-defends-deal-with-aspenleaf/ My favorite lines from the FP article with McCoy: • But they paid 100 cents a few years back: “You are
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I am getting the feeling you have been buying common shares, and are lying about not having a position.
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on Jul 28, 2014 1:58pm
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If they wanted it, they would have come by now.......and why make an offer if they kill the deal? Why not wait for ARN to deteriorate further, and maybe pick up the pieces in a distress sale, or from
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teevee
You are missing something. CPG and/or LTS can kill this deal, then come back with a total buyout offer. If the common shares plummet as you expect, then the shareholders would jump at the chance to
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on Jul 28, 2014 10:40am
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These are opinion boards and I am intrigued by the outcome of the Aspenleaf offer. My opinion is based on my belief that the alternative to Aspenleaf's offer is worse for both shareholders and
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But why are you defending a deal where the common shareholders get money from the debenture holders, if you have no economic interest?
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on Jul 27, 2014 11:51pm
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I am retired. I once owned ARN shares, but after they sold debentures to pay for pipelines and roads etc, I sold. Why? First, the acid fracs didn't work as well as hoped for, and second, because
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RE:RE: Shorters?
That explains it.
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