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Comment by sailor1986on Feb 08, 2018 1:06pm

RE:CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT

Have a look at ML. If you can get in low 3 dollar range.
Post by Mulva44on Feb 08, 2018 12:40pm

Rebalance at 4:15 Pm wiped it out.....

These inverse etf's all got wiped out because of the way they rebalance. At 4:15 they get whatever the closing price is on the future, and they all took it up the you know what on that print ...more  
Comment by CmoneyBmoneyon Feb 08, 2018 11:44am

RE:RE:CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT

These ETF's are for professional traders and algo's. I genuinely do feel bad for anyone who got burned by this crash, but chances are people who got burned never should have been using these ...more  
Comment by YupnDumpon Feb 08, 2018 11:23am

RE:CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT

VG..thanks...don't have $$$ for lawyer(300$/hr)small timer
Post by RichyRich$on Feb 08, 2018 11:18am

CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT

I would like to sue Horizons. Class Action in numbers. I called the Ontario Securities Commission and they are actually investigating the maker of Horizons for that HVI incident. If a negative press ...more  
Comment by Iseneschalon Feb 08, 2018 9:20am

RE:RE:positive outlook vs. negative whining.

Thanks Nakate.........very well informed post. Cheers!
Comment by Nakateon Feb 08, 2018 9:15am

RE:positive outlook vs. negative whining.

Volume/demand has little to do wit the price of the units. unit price is based on the underlying assets that track the vix. Even if there was no trading the price for the units would still follow the ...more  
Comment by lithomonon Feb 08, 2018 3:47am

RE:positive outlook vs. negative whining.

Penelope, another big drop of the DOW could wipe out HVI.  Big risk right now. In fact, all three VIX Horizon's ETF's are currently high risk. One wouldn't want to hold any of the ...more  
Comment by tiodnacion Feb 08, 2018 2:45am

RE:positive outlook vs. negative whining.

Good point.  I agree with you.  If everybody stopped selling, the the volatility will subside in due time and thus the HVI price would quickly bounce back.  I think this stock will only ...more  
Post by penelopeon Feb 08, 2018 1:11am

positive outlook vs. negative whining.

Hi all, New investor here. Got my account up and went all in 1 week before the markets crashed. Lesson learned ....probably not. I do have a question for you though. If everyone stopped selling at ...more  
Post by lithomonon Feb 08, 2018 12:47am

What is Next Horizons ETF to Collapse & Fold Away

Get your money into hard assets in the ground like Lithium (FL, SRJ). New energy. Tesla reaffirms Model S production targets - more relevant to SRJ who has drilling project 200 miles from Nevada ...more  
Post by RookieCynicon Feb 08, 2018 12:33am

Horizons owned by Korean Bitcoiners ?

Horizons owned by Korean Bitcoiners ?
Comment by RookieCynicon Feb 08, 2018 12:32am

RE:RE:RE:HVI - Crucial Information

I would wonder if this outfit is also invovled in Bitcoin too Lots of Shenaigans in Asia and Bitcoin  Would not be surprised if there at least some connection
Comment by jicoopon Feb 07, 2018 11:42pm

RE:RE:HVI - Crucial Information

Anyone interested in taking this further should know that the parent company of Horizons is Mirae Asset out of South Korea. Lawyer will want to know this, or could probably find out. IMHO, there was ...more  
Comment by investderpon Feb 07, 2018 8:40pm

RE:HVI - Crucial Information

They even put out a special announcement for all you confused people who don't understand what you're investing in https://www.horizonsetfs.com/horizons/media/pdfs/educational/HVI ...more  
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