Post by
mouserman on Aug 15, 2023 9:48am
DFN unit nav tanking as general markets dive.
Will be almost impossible for Quadravest to justify another distributions to commons for AUGUST... mas it looks a lot like DFN will finish down under $14.80 UNIT NAV if the market continues to correct here.. VERY red out there. No where to hide really...
Comment by
flamingogold on Aug 15, 2023 10:11am
One can hide in FFN prefs (which I hold) paying 8% and daily money market (also own and ready to deploy on opportunity as it arises) pay +4.5% and likely to go higher if the BoC pulls the trigger on another 1/4 pt.
Comment by
mouserman on Aug 15, 2023 10:19am
Yes I am mostly hiding in cash and preferreds at this time. Was lucky to get out of DGS at a profit, a few days ago. Have a little LBS left tho as I view the Canadian banks and lifecos as safer than the US counterparts. Outside of 70% in cash, i am mostly in FFN and FTN preferreds. I think FTN has slightly more capital gain potential, but FFN pays a higher %.
Comment by
nadomow776 on Aug 15, 2023 10:38am
DFN pref is 9.40s and redeemable next year
Comment by
flamingogold on Aug 15, 2023 11:07am
DFN prefs paying only 5.8% while FFN is 8%
Comment by
nadomow776 on Aug 15, 2023 11:19am
The yield to maturity is much higher. The NAV is 10 and redeemable next year
Comment by
flamingogold on Aug 15, 2023 12:25pm
FFN prefs mature at the same price and same day as DFN. May be a wash though as the former pays out higher monthly distributions but the cap gain to maturirty is lower than DFN.
Comment by
nadomow776 on Aug 15, 2023 12:46pm
DFN pref, higher potential capital gain, higher unit NAV, more diversifed asset protection