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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Sherritt International Corp T.S

Alternate Symbol(s):  SHERF

Sherritt International Corporation is a Canada-based company engaged in the mining and refining of nickel and cobalt metals essential for the adoption of electric vehicles. The Company is engaged in the production of high purity nickel and cobalt metals from lateritic ore. Its technologies group creates solutions for oil and mining companies around the world to improve environmental performance... see more

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Post by CommonCents123 on May 25, 2023 8:31pm

Sherritt Investor Relations

I have asked a few questions and here's the answers I received.  I also asked for clarification as some of the responses did not address my questions fully.

Response: We do not provide the value of the Fort Saskatchewan operations. 

I thought this odd given that for tax and asset valuations the value would be available.  I believe Sunshine & Rainbows pegged value at $!0BILLION in a previous post.  I asked specifically for land/equipment value again at Fort Saskatchewan.
 
Response: In terms of your question regarding the ownership arrangement of the mine and operations between Sherritt and the Government of Cuba:
 
Sherritt has a 50/50 partnership with General Nickel Company S.A. (“GNC”) of Cuba (the “Moa Joint Venture” or the “Moa JV”). In addition, Sherritt has a wholly-owned fertilizer business, sulphuric acid, utilities, fertilizer storage and administrative facilities in Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada (Fort Site) that provide additional sources of income. The Moa Joint Venture mines, processes and refines nickel and cobalt for sale worldwide (except in the United States). The Moa Joint Venture is a vertically-integrated joint venture that mines lateritic ore by open pit methods and processes them at its facilities at Moa, Cuba into mixed sulphide precipitate (“MSP”) containing nickel and cobalt. The MSP is transported to the refining facilities in Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta. The resulting nickel and cobalt products are sold to various markets, primarily in Europe, Japan and China. At the current depletion rates, the concessions of the Moa Joint Venture are planned to be mined until at least 2045. The refinery facilities in Fort Saskatchewan have an annual combined production capacity of approximately 38,200 tonnes (100% basis) of nickel and cobalt. In 2021, Sherritt embarked on an expansion program that was advanced in 2022 focused on increasing annual MSP production by 20% of 2021 production or 6,500 tonnes of contained nickel and cobalt (100% basis). The expansion program capitalizes on the growing demand for high purity nickel and cobalt being driven by the accelerated adoption of electric vehicles and the energy transition in general and builds on the 26-year successful track record of the Moa Joint Venture. In addition, Sherritt is focused on implementing a new mine plan at Moa which will extend the life of mine to beyond 2040 through the conversion of mineral resources into reserves using an economic cut-off grade (“ECOG”) and optimized life of mine (“LOM”) plan. The Fort Site provides inputs (ammonia, sulphuric acid and utilities) for the Moa Joint Venture’s metals refinery, produces agricultural fertilizer for sale in Western Canada and provides additional fertilizer storage and administrative facilities.

They were specific to say a 50/50 partnership, not that they owned 50% of the land, equipment and minerals in the ground.  I asked for clarification on that as well as a few other things.

More interesting facts and considerations:

Approximate top users of nickel are China 50%, USA 8%, Japan 7%, South Korea 4 % and Germany 3.5%.

Sherritt cannot sell to USA so that market 90 miles away is gone and given political tensions between China and Canada that market may be constrained as well.  Europe...who knows, they are slowing down so demand may also decline because of demographic shifts to the downside.  Biggest use is in stainless steel at 75%. Biggest producer is Indonesia...very close to the biggest consumer of nickel.

Lots of hurdles yet.  Hope for the best but plan for the worst.

Stay tuned....
Comment by Maxmoe on May 25, 2023 9:37pm
You seem to be confusing "value" with replacement value and other accounting concepts like original cost and book value, maybe a sprinkle of tax accounting. The "value" is irrelevant for tax purposes. The tax deduction each year is based on the original capital cost and the remaining cost, for tax purposes, that has not already been claimed as capital cost allowance. Actual ...more  
Comment by CommonCents123 on May 25, 2023 10:08pm
thx for the input maxmoe, i'll definitely use it, much appreciated.  What about value assessment as a component of property taxes? Anyway, I highly doubt the book value would be $10 billion as suggested. according to yahoo finance the book value is under $2/share.  If i understand it correctly, then the fort property isn't worth $10 billion which is what Mr. S&R suggested. ...more  
Comment by Albatross on May 25, 2023 11:04pm
I'm interested in your opinion. Taking into consideration everything you know about Sherritt, realistically what do you VALUE Sherritt at? Not what is your buy in price or break even or whatever... how do you quantify what your stake is worth? I'm very interested.   
Comment by VerificateASAP on May 26, 2023 9:08am
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Comment by CommonCents123 on May 26, 2023 6:15pm
I want you to really think about that question.  It's a moving target.  At 1 point it was $0.11 and another $17.00! I can do the calculations just like everyone else including Clearwater, Verificate123, yourself, yahoo etc. using the "formulas" everyone uses etc. At the end of day Sherritt's value on paper means NOTHING really.  It's what people are ...more  
Comment by Maxmoe on May 26, 2023 3:22pm
Nope. Still confused. WT heck does value assessment have to do with property taxes. Whose? Mine? Get it? Mine? Me,myself,&I versus nickel mine? Whether it's an ESL troll or an AI bot, it's just so easy to cause a meltdown. Neither one understands a pun. "Value" seems to also baffle.  nobody suggested book value would be $10 billion. There's an understanding gap ...more  
Comment by CommonCents123 on May 26, 2023 5:10pm
1) YES Verificate123 posted that Sherritt's Fort Saskatchewan property was worth at least $10 billion. In terms of value assessment...your property taxes are calculated using the assessed value of your property/home and multiplying it by the municipal mill rate. If your property/house is assessed at $1,000,000 and the mill rate for the city in which you live is 1.5% then your tax that year ...more  
Comment by VerificateASAP on May 26, 2023 5:32pm
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Comment by Maxmoe on May 26, 2023 7:05pm
If you're going to attack verificate, it doesn't help your cause when you wander far off-road from the path of knowledge. Give it up on the property tax. The "assessed" value is neither the accounting "book value", nor the "value" of a nickel plant. It might , or most likely might not, be the value of the real estate but industrial property taxes don't ...more  
Comment by CommonCents123 on May 26, 2023 7:22pm
Maxmoe, go read my original message.  I'm just trying to find out the value of the fort land/operations/buildings.   I'm just trying to determine if S&R is making stuff up. Goes to his credibiity when he proclaims to know more than I.  Thats why is asked the question here, to see if anyone else knew.  I could care less what its worth...whatever it is, it ...more  
Comment by Maxmoe on May 26, 2023 7:50pm
Yeah, I can barely get the end of your messages once. I'm not going to read it twice.  Just keep spreading your FUD, Fear,Uncertainty,Doubt.  Geez, Another Elmer FUD.  spare us from the sanctimonious word salad. 
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